I’m never sure how I feel about Pink’s feminist street cred. She’s fairly derogatory about other women in her song “Stupid Girls”, but I know she self ID’s as a feminist. IDK — she always strikes me as fairly catty towards other women.
I fucking love this choreography. Queen B for life!
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Personally, I’ve come to the point where if a woman self-IDs as a feminist, then they’re a feminist and who am I to deny them that? It’s just that P!nk is a really shitty feminist!
Casey(Quote) (Reply)
Casey, I respect your view, and it’s probably more PC, but I’ve long argued that if Christians would have policed the use of their name a bit more instead of welcoming anyone who boosts their numbers, the religion might have more credibility with outsiders. Christianity SEEMS to be about hating sinners and being a hypocrite, when two of the really core principles – to EVERY variation on Christianity – are to love the sinner and treat others the way you’d like them to treat you. Similarly, I think feminists need to police the term when – and only when – we see feminists being really negative toward other women (and not in a context of critique).
Jennifer Kesler(Quote) (Reply)
Jennifer Kesler,
IDK if I really get what you’re saying? That feminists (and Christians) who do shitty things somehow don’t count as feminists? That sounds a lot like the No True Scotsman fallacy which abdicates responsibility from shitty feminists.
Rather than “police” them by taking the title of feminist away from them, I think we should say “LOL NO, YOU’RE A SHITTY FEMINIST, FUCKING ACT RIGHT” instead. We gotta round up our fuck-ups.
Casey(Quote) (Reply)
Casey, we’re not responsible for these people, though. Generally, they are just using the philosophy to get credibility. Deny them the right to that label, and suddenly they either have to start acting like a real (whatever) if they want to get back their cred or give up and admit they’re not really feminists (or whatever) at all.
While there are lots of different, conflicting feminisms out there and we’re all going to disagree and maybe privately think somebody else’s feminism is shitty, how can there be a form of feminism in which you scorn or hate other women?
Jennifer Kesler(Quote) (Reply)