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		<title>By: MW</title>
		<link>http://thehathorlegacy.com/an-acceptable-time-acceptable-themes/comment-page-1/#comment-87852</link>
		<dc:creator>MW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m probably the odd man out here, but I&#039;m going to say it anyway. First, a disclaimer: I am a Christian, though I am progressive, so not what most people think of when they hear the word.

I can&#039;t imagine not giving my child a book to read because it had religious themes, whether or not these themes were Christian. I&#039;ve read all of L&#039;Engle&#039;s books, my mother is a huge fan. I&#039;m sure I was never given these books because we were Christians and the books had Christian themes,  just as I know I wasn&#039;t given &quot;Annie on My Mind&quot; to read so that I would switch sexualities and become a lesbian. I was given all of them to read because they are good books that talk about important things. I couldn&#039;t agree more with the point you make about the importance of parents talking with their kids about what they are reading. I plan to always talk about books with my children. But I wouldn&#039;t do it to make sure they weren&#039;t getting the wrong message. If my child reads a book about a character who practices Wicca and then wants to explore that faith I wouldn&#039;t stop them. It can only lead to one of two things. Either they find a path that works better for them than the one they are being raised in or they are strengthened in the faith they are being raised in by comparing it with others.
Sorry, that got rambly. I guess what I am saying is, would those of you who had a problem (however mild) with the Christian themes in the book have as much of a problem with a book that had a different religious theme, or is it that it is Christian?
The end.
PS: On a side note, do you have an entry on Annie on My Mind? Talk about strong female characters! That book led to my first experience with homophobia. I lent it to a friend and after her mother found it I was not allowed over to her house anymore. Amazingly enough, I&#039;m still straight, and so is my friend.  I can&#039;t believe we weren&#039;t &quot;corrupted.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m probably the odd man out here, but I&#8217;m going to say it anyway. First, a disclaimer: I am a Christian, though I am progressive, so not what most people think of when they hear the word.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine not giving my child a book to read because it had religious themes, whether or not these themes were Christian. I&#8217;ve read all of L&#8217;Engle&#8217;s books, my mother is a huge fan. I&#8217;m sure I was never given these books because we were Christians and the books had Christian themes,  just as I know I wasn&#8217;t given &#8220;Annie on My Mind&#8221; to read so that I would switch sexualities and become a lesbian. I was given all of them to read because they are good books that talk about important things. I couldn&#8217;t agree more with the point you make about the importance of parents talking with their kids about what they are reading. I plan to always talk about books with my children. But I wouldn&#8217;t do it to make sure they weren&#8217;t getting the wrong message. If my child reads a book about a character who practices Wicca and then wants to explore that faith I wouldn&#8217;t stop them. It can only lead to one of two things. Either they find a path that works better for them than the one they are being raised in or they are strengthened in the faith they are being raised in by comparing it with others.<br />
Sorry, that got rambly. I guess what I am saying is, would those of you who had a problem (however mild) with the Christian themes in the book have as much of a problem with a book that had a different religious theme, or is it that it is Christian?<br />
The end.<br />
PS: On a side note, do you have an entry on Annie on My Mind? Talk about strong female characters! That book led to my first experience with homophobia. I lent it to a friend and after her mother found it I was not allowed over to her house anymore. Amazingly enough, I&#8217;m still straight, and so is my friend.  I can&#8217;t believe we weren&#8217;t &#8220;corrupted.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Revena</title>
		<link>http://thehathorlegacy.com/an-acceptable-time-acceptable-themes/comment-page-1/#comment-87851</link>
		<dc:creator>Revena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaby, you might find that your opinion of Zachary changes if you read some of the other books he appears in.  The character has sort of a history of manipulative, selfish behavior.  I always feel pretty bad for him by the time I get to the end of &lt;i&gt;An Acceptable Time&lt;/i&gt;, though, even so.  He&#039;s a weirdly likable character, despite his flaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaby, you might find that your opinion of Zachary changes if you read some of the other books he appears in.  The character has sort of a history of manipulative, selfish behavior.  I always feel pretty bad for him by the time I get to the end of <i>An Acceptable Time</i>, though, even so.  He&#8217;s a weirdly likable character, despite his flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THis book does have acceptable themes.The space/time expanations and theorys were not as complicated as the rest of the books.Well I think that Polly and Zachary should have been friends in the end..I mean it is not his fault that he was ill and was about to die. Plus, he really didnt know that they were going to sacrafice Polly..so i dont see why she could have at least forgive him and left off as friends ( but then again this is the first book that I have read of these series with Zachary Gray) My heart crushed when she said that they couldnt see each other again..I mean..he really loved her and even said that he would never hurt her. And dont you remember that when he found out that they were going to sacrifice her..he yelled and tried all he can to save her, ending up in tears(now tell me how many californian teens do that for a girl)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THis book does have acceptable themes.The space/time expanations and theorys were not as complicated as the rest of the books.Well I think that Polly and Zachary should have been friends in the end..I mean it is not his fault that he was ill and was about to die. Plus, he really didnt know that they were going to sacrafice Polly..so i dont see why she could have at least forgive him and left off as friends ( but then again this is the first book that I have read of these series with Zachary Gray) My heart crushed when she said that they couldnt see each other again..I mean..he really loved her and even said that he would never hurt her. And dont you remember that when he found out that they were going to sacrifice her..he yelled and tried all he can to save her, ending up in tears(now tell me how many californian teens do that for a girl)</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 21:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For anyone reading who&#039;s confused, the link to the article Michelle&#039;s talking about is:

http://revolutionf.blogspot.com/&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah yes, a link would help! Haha, I was just leaving a note, and she knew where to look, so it didn&#039;t even occur to me. Thanks for your comment as well, I&#039;ll be replying in a minute. :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Awesome, Michelle. I saw that you&#039;d posted your take, but I haven&#039;t had time to thoroughly read it yet - I&#039;ve got it bookmarked for after the con, though!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you! I hope you enjoy it. And I hope you have a great time at WisCon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For anyone reading who&#8217;s confused, the link to the article Michelle&#8217;s talking about is:</p>
<p><a href="http://revolutionf.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://revolutionf.blogspot.com/</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Ah yes, a link would help! Haha, I was just leaving a note, and she knew where to look, so it didn&#8217;t even occur to me. Thanks for your comment as well, I&#8217;ll be replying in a minute. <img src='http://thehathorlegacy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Awesome, Michelle. I saw that you&#8217;d posted your take, but I haven&#8217;t had time to thoroughly read it yet &#8211; I&#8217;ve got it bookmarked for after the con, though!</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you! I hope you enjoy it. And I hope you have a great time at WisCon!</p>
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		<title>By: Revena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 20:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, Michelle.  I saw that you&#039;d posted your take, but I haven&#039;t had time to thoroughly read it yet - I&#039;ve got it bookmarked for after the con, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, Michelle.  I saw that you&#8217;d posted your take, but I haven&#8217;t had time to thoroughly read it yet &#8211; I&#8217;ve got it bookmarked for after the con, though!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 17:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the vomiting! The LJ feeds really do their own thing sometimes.

For anyone reading who&#039;s confused, the link to the article Michelle&#039;s talking about is:

http://revolutionf.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the vomiting! The LJ feeds really do their own thing sometimes.</p>
<p>For anyone reading who&#8217;s confused, the link to the article Michelle&#8217;s talking about is:</p>
<p><a href="http://revolutionf.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://revolutionf.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 04:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, the LJ feed just vomited a bunch of Hathor&#039;s entries back up, so it reminded me to let you know I&#039;ve FINALLY written down my thoughts. I hope it comes across somewhat coherent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, the LJ feed just vomited a bunch of Hathor&#8217;s entries back up, so it reminded me to let you know I&#8217;ve FINALLY written down my thoughts. I hope it comes across somewhat coherent.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the conversation about Meg&#039;s motivations is particularly interesting when compared to conversations Polly has with other people about her mother in A House Like a Lotus. I might have to post about that, sometime.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, I see. I was wondering why Polly had suddenly brought up the subject. &lt;em&gt;A House Like a Lotus&lt;/em&gt; is definitely on my &#039;to read&#039; list, so I would love to hear your thought on that, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think the conversation about Meg&#8217;s motivations is particularly interesting when compared to conversations Polly has with other people about her mother in A House Like a Lotus. I might have to post about that, sometime.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, I see. I was wondering why Polly had suddenly brought up the subject. <em>A House Like a Lotus</em> is definitely on my &#8216;to read&#8217; list, so I would love to hear your thought on that, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Revena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But I think I may have your answer about Karralys influencing the People of the Wind: Unless I&#039;m remembering incorrectly, The People of the Wind (and The People Across the Lake) are first introduced in L&#039;Engle&#039;s &lt;i&gt;A Swiftly Tilting Planet&lt;/i&gt;, where Charles Wallace learns to kythe better by going inside one of the tribe&#039;s members.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, that&#039;s right!  It&#039;s been so long since I&#039;ve read &lt;i&gt;A Swiftly Tilting Planet&lt;/i&gt; that I&#039;d totally forgotten about that.

I think the conversation about Meg&#039;s motivations is particularly interesting when compared to conversations Polly has with other people about her mother in &lt;i&gt;A House Like a Lotus&lt;/i&gt;.  I might have to post about that, sometime.

I&#039;ll keep my eye out for your take on &lt;i&gt;An Acceptable Time&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I think I may have your answer about Karralys influencing the People of the Wind: Unless I&#8217;m remembering incorrectly, The People of the Wind (and The People Across the Lake) are first introduced in L&#8217;Engle&#8217;s <i>A Swiftly Tilting Planet</i>, where Charles Wallace learns to kythe better by going inside one of the tribe&#8217;s members.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s right!  It&#8217;s been so long since I&#8217;ve read <i>A Swiftly Tilting Planet</i> that I&#8217;d totally forgotten about that.</p>
<p>I think the conversation about Meg&#8217;s motivations is particularly interesting when compared to conversations Polly has with other people about her mother in <i>A House Like a Lotus</i>.  I might have to post about that, sometime.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep my eye out for your take on <i>An Acceptable Time</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for directing me to this! I&#039;m glad you decided to reread it for yourself, as we seem to have picked up on a lot of the same things, though I barely noticed the ethnocentrism. But I think I may have your answer about Karralys influencing the People of the Wind: Unless I&#039;m remembering incorrectly, The People of the Wind (and The People Across the Lake) are first introduced in L&#039;Engle&#039;s &lt;em&gt;A Swiftly Tilting Planet&lt;/em&gt;, where Charles Wallace learns to kythe better by going inside one of the tribe&#039;s members. There&#039;s no mention of European influence that I recall, and The People of the Wind are &quot;noble savages,&quot; even though they are at odds The People Across the Lake still(?). (Though neither &lt;em&gt;A Swiftly Tilting Planet&lt;/em&gt; nor &lt;em&gt;An Acceptable Time&lt;/em&gt; give an exact date as to when Charles and Polly visited the tribe, going by chronological order, you would assume Charles was there first, and &quot;before&quot; Polly.)

Otherwise, you and I seem to have picked up on a lot of the same things, even isolating the conversation Polly and Kate have about Meg. Hopefully, I will have my thoughts up soon. Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for directing me to this! I&#8217;m glad you decided to reread it for yourself, as we seem to have picked up on a lot of the same things, though I barely noticed the ethnocentrism. But I think I may have your answer about Karralys influencing the People of the Wind: Unless I&#8217;m remembering incorrectly, The People of the Wind (and The People Across the Lake) are first introduced in L&#8217;Engle&#8217;s <em>A Swiftly Tilting Planet</em>, where Charles Wallace learns to kythe better by going inside one of the tribe&#8217;s members. There&#8217;s no mention of European influence that I recall, and The People of the Wind are &#8220;noble savages,&#8221; even though they are at odds The People Across the Lake still(?). (Though neither <em>A Swiftly Tilting Planet</em> nor <em>An Acceptable Time</em> give an exact date as to when Charles and Polly visited the tribe, going by chronological order, you would assume Charles was there first, and &#8220;before&#8221; Polly.)</p>
<p>Otherwise, you and I seem to have picked up on a lot of the same things, even isolating the conversation Polly and Kate have about Meg. Hopefully, I will have my thoughts up soon. Thanks again!</p>
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