Hey, peeps!
Remember Gabrielle and Xena? She-Ra and Glimmer? The My Little Ponies and… all the other My Little Ponies? (ETA: The reboot of MLP has some serious issues with race and gender.
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I’m in DIRE NEED of examples of female best friends in fiction, particularly television and media. This is serious business — I was talking with my (male) bestie about depictions of female friendship, and realized that I couldn’t think of that many positive and realistic representations of female friendship in media oriented towards adults.
Here are our conditions.
1. There can be no major friend break-up over men — meaning that the American Quilt movie, Fried Green Tomatoes, and Beaches are all out.
2. They have to talk about something OTHER than the men in their lives — this is obvious. It’s a Bechdel thing.
3. They have to be peers — not necessarily the same age, but equals. So the grandmother/daughter relationship in The Princess Diaries doesn’t count, but the friendship between Mia and Lilly does.
4. If there’s a friendship montage… it can NOT only include a pajama party or a delicious cooking scene or a trip to the salon– we’re not looking for a conflation of essentialized definitions of femininity with rituals of female friendship, meaning they have to bond over something NOT related to pajamas, singing into pretend microphones, make-up, or make-overs.
5. They have to SHARE the spotlight — while Xena’s the main character in Xena, Gabrielle has her own plot-lines and character arc. I want suggestions more interesting than Anita Blake’s friend-in-a-fridge, Ronnie, who only pops out of the woodwork when the plot demands it: friendships like partnerships and collaborations.
My suggestions included: Xena (Gabrielle and Xena), She-Ra (Glimmer and She-Ra), Sailor Moon, and the girls from WITCH. His included the Oathbound series (Tarma and Kethry).
What are your recs? I need more female buddy books!
ETA: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE suggestions! Don’t forget to include WHY the characters are awesome besties, because not everyone will have seen the show/read the book in question.


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Seconding all of these: Azumanga Daioh! – they really do feel like an actual group of teenage girls, which is a ridiculously hard thing to find. Other ‘moe’ shows (and I really don’t think Azumanga fits that definition, but I won’t go into that here
) prefer to stuff their female characters into nerd fantasy boxes rather than let them act like real people, but this show thankfully avoids that trap. It’s sadly refreshing.
Haibane Renmei – another show which is all about its female ensemble cast, and the friendships in particular between Rakka and Reki, and also Rakka and Kuu, are so well-written and moving. I won’t give spoilers here, but it’s obvious throughout the story that these women and girls care deeply for each other.
My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic – like Azumanga, this one’s great at representing the diversity of women and of the friendships we can have, which is especially impressive given that its target audience is 8-year-olds. I don’t care, I love it
Just because Rarity’s the frilliest pony in town doesn’t mean she can’t get along with the down-to-earth Applejack, for example. And while Fluttershy might be gentle, she certainly isn’t weak when it comes to standing up for her friends. We need more kids’ shows like this, for sure!
Aaand adding some mentions of my own! Angelic Layer has quite a few good female friendships, and the main one is between Misaki and Hatoko. They bond over playing Angelic Layer, and both of them being a lot smaller and younger than any of the other players. Eventually they team up and work together in the final round of the tournament, and kick much doll ass.
Black Lagoon has about as many good female as male characters, which is unusual for a show so centred around action, in particular Revy and Edda. Edda’s a nun, Revy’s a pirate, they get drunk together and wreck shit up and it’s a lot of fun. (Just a quick warning though – there are some skeevy bits and some pretty triggering storylines, especially in second season, so look it up first if that would be an issue for you.)
Higurashi (When The Cicadas Cry) has an almost entirely female main cast, and while it looks like your standard new-dude-and-a-bunch-of-girls harem anime setup to begin with… It’s actually a horror. Each arc has a different character get cursed and kill everyone else, and the only cure is friendship! It’s much better than it sounds, and all of the main cast care a lot about each other.
Some games too, since I can’t seem to stop rambling! Final Fantasy is actually pretty good for this, and I remember X, X-2 and XIII in particular all have great friendships in them. In X, Yuna and Lulu seem to respect each other greatly – Yuna as the summoner who has to give her life for the world and Lulu as her guardian who will protect her until she does that. Then in X-2 the main trio of Yuna, Rikku and Paine go around being treasure hunters and it’s all a bit silly but still really fun. In XIII you have Vanille and Fang, whose friendship is basically the entire reason for the plot and way too deep and awesome to give the space it deserves here.
And Recettear! You’ve got Recette, a young girl who has to turn her house into an item shop to settle her father’s debt, and Tear, the fairy debt collector who helps her. They don’t start on an equal footing, but by the end they’re pretty close friends. The many other female characters you can recruit as party members are all really enjoyable, and a more minor character, Alouette, quite clearly just wants to be Recette’s friend behind all the rich-girl posturing.
I… Think I’m done? >.<
Piridin(Quote) (Reply)
Wait WHAT? They are getting rid of Prentiss?! How did I miss this? Why would they do that?!
Now I am depressed:(
Kex(Quote) (Reply)
Heh. Buffy and Willow were the first example that popped into my mind too. Their friendship is pretty much absolute.
For a literary example, try Annice and Stasya in Sing the Four Quarters by Tanya Huff. Essentially they’re bards in an open relationship because they spend months out of the year traveling around the land. Despite the fact the book opens with Annice pregnant by a man she slept with, this never really changes their relationship (aside from in the most practical ways)–Stasya is certainly never at any risk of being edged out.
I would avoid the other books, mainly because after the first certain preferences (like Staysa being a lesbian) are out the window and EVERYONE IS BISEXUAL (even being bi myself I find that really obnoxious) and suddenly every book has to end with the most contrived happy endings imaginable. Just so everyone’s happy. But the first book is awesome!
Shaun(Quote) (Reply)
Sookie and Tara on True Blood. They sort of fight over a dude, but not really. They both save each others’ lives a bunch.
Thelma and Louise!
Gnatalby(Quote) (Reply)
It is a very cool arc, which she gets to herself! It shouldn’t have to end like this – TV characters get shot all the time and go on just fine. Garcia did, even. Unless they make it utterly impossible, I’m going to assume that reports of Prentiss’s death will be exaggerated, and some future season will have her come out of witness protection and rejoin the cast. And then JJ leaves the Pentagon because she has ethical conflicts with her boss or something and rejoins the team too, because why not go all-out when inventing fantasy future seasons?
Em(Quote) (Reply)
Oh! Maybe Ivanova and Talia from Babylon 5? They mostly talk about Ivanova’s issues with telepaths and the tragic story of her mother, and don’t actually become friends until soon before Talia gets written out of the show (and even then it’s implied that they’re maybe kinda sorta getting romantically involved off-camera). But they’re so awesome that they deserve a mention. *firmly believes that Talia is still out there somewhere recovered and well with her special new powers*
Em(Quote) (Reply)
I’ve wanted to tip the Hathor Legacy crew off to the Australian TV series “Rain Shadow” for a long time. It’s a really well-written show about the two veterinarians in a small rural community (with a secret!). At first, the tough and experienced owner of the practice can’t stand the young bright-eyed assistant who wants to do everything by the book, and the assistant is severely put off by the town’s (and the boss’) secretive and rude attitude. But, over time they develop a grudging respect for each other, which slooowly turns into some kind of friendship. Just like a cop show! (Love them cop shows.) Except they’re both women! (And not cops, but veterinarians may be more similar to cops than I thought)
I made it sound way more cliché than I think it is, but their relationship really is based on a very male formula – as in, they both identify strongly with their work and their abilities, and serve the community in a way that is often considered stereotypically male. I don’t want to spoil anything, but the boss even has a dark secret extremely similar to the dark secrets of male loner heroes, except turned on its head. It was very refreshing to see a show about women that wasn’t a show about women. Being female is just one part of their lot in life, not their entire personality. I also loved seeing realistic women who actuallydo things, instead of just sitting around and sometimes talk to people a bit.
Also, I think a lot of shows/plots about women make a huge point about following your heart, which to me seems like it’s based on the stereotype that women are ruled by their feelings, but choosing to show the good consequenses of this, instead of the bad ones like more misogynist stories do. I’m not saying that following your heart is wrong – in a lot of situations it’s absolutely the right thing to do – but I think women even in shows that try to be feminist are too often painted as people who follow their hearts because they can’t choose anything else, like they don’t think about it and just know through their women’s intuition what to do. Not in “Rain Shadow”, though. These people have goals and morals and dilemmas! And internal conflicts about right and wrong that aren’t about which guy they should pick! And vaginas! Can you imagine?
*steps of soapbox*
bulletproof(Quote) (Reply)
They’d better!
SunlessNick(Quote) (Reply)
True; lots going on with both of them.
SunlessNick(Quote) (Reply)
Which is even more awful because they also just got rid of JJ
We have a post about that.
SunlessNick(Quote) (Reply)
Speaking of maybe-lovers, Carrie Stetko and Lily Sharpe from Greg Rucka’s Whiteout.
SunlessNick(Quote) (Reply)
Well, Saren starts calling Dashti her friend while they are still trapped in the tower. While Saren is fairly soon broken by the whole experience, Dashti is much stronger, and ends up in charge. And SPOILERS, but….
After they escape the tower, first they both work as commoners in the kitchens for a while, and then Saren asks Dashti to pretend to be the Lady, while Saren pretends to be her maid, as she is still terrified of pretty much everything. Dashti falls for the Lord of a neighboring land, who thinks she is Saren. When it is discovered that Dashti is not a noble, and there is trial for Dashti’s life, Saren, despite her fear, testifies in front of everyone that she has adopted Dashti as her sister, so Dashti can marry the man she loves. She tells Dashti to never again call her My Lady.
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While it seems like one hell of a stretch to call them equals, Sarah Jane and Maria from the Sarah Jane Adventures follows a lovely arc from grumpy mentor and sidekick to friendship – culminating in a scene where Sarah Jane’s been told by a precog to give something to the person she trusts most in the world, and chooses Maria (Which I also like, because mentoring a bunch of kids in the fine art of alien-wrangling is something that Sarah Jane got to be grumpy about rather than maternal) (Maria’s been written out now though – her replacement character rocks too, but her dynamics are different).
Honourable mention: they’re not friends, exactly, but something that’s just as rare between female characters. The thing that more stayed with me from Caitlin R Kiernan’s Threshold was the relationship between Dancy and Sadie. Sadie is a rather bitter person, with carefully nurtured cynicism; Dancy is a drifter, running on empty, who’s given her life over to fighting monsters, because she doesn’t know of anyone else who can or will. And Sadie ends up deciding she has to help Dancy because she can’t live with not doing so – basically, Dancy inspires her. Sadly, they’re not the main part of the story (I like the main part too, don’t get me wrong, but Dancy and Sadie were special).
SunlessNick(Quote) (Reply)
I’m going to go there: Gossip girl. So yeah, Blair plotted Serena’s destruction for basically the entire first season but the girl has self-worth issues and Serena left her at the same time her parents were divorcing. Once they worked that out, they went back to being true friends. Sure, their friendship has an achillesheel (Blair’s jealousy of Serena’s getting handing everything Blair fights for) but that just keeps things interesting.
While on Highschool TV: One Tree Hill! Haley, Brooke and Peyton have their issues and yes Peyton and Brooke fall out over a boy but in the end, after a cat-fight or two, they always end up choosing each other. Haley is, for lack of a better word, sane one who is very supportive and in return inspires them to support her.
The Flying Doctors was a great ole show from down under in the eighties. About Doctors flying to their patients because everyone lived far away from everyone else. It was very popular over here because it featured sunshine and wide-open spaces. Something we lack. Anyway, Nurse Kate and Doctor Chris (female) were good friends. Kate always fought tooth and nail to get the respect of the Docs but sort of didn’t have to with Chris and though they had very different values, always respected the other both professionally and personally.
Maartje(Quote) (Reply)
By that time, the whole cast is running all over the place with the war and everything, so they don’t actually encounter one another that much. There is a sort of coming-home ep where she meets everyone as Ezri, and I could *swear* there’s a good scene between the two of them, but… I may need to rewatch some eps and let you know.
Jennifer Kesler(Quote) (Reply)
I thought about that. J. Michael confirmed they had a sexual relationship, even if no one says “bisexual” on screen, because nobody says Sheridan is “heterosexual” (this is possibly the best thing JMS ever said). Incidentally, Talia was SUPPOSED to recover. Remember that episode where Kosh was screwing around with her with the Vicar dude? It was telepathically backing up her original personality or something along those lines so it could restore her after the Sleeper personality took hold. The reason it never happened is apparently the actress is a huge douche and nobody wanted to work with her again (although Claudia Christian apparently got along with her).
So yes, in your proper timeline where Hollywood drama didn’t interfere with the storyline, Talia got better. I still prefer Lyta though, even if Lyta doesn’t have any strong relationships on the show kinda… at all. :/
Shaun(Quote) (Reply)
I just looked at my bookshelf, and the only thing I can think to add that isn’t already up here is the Joy Luck Club by Amy Tan. Pretty sure everyone’s already at least heard of it, but it’s kind of about stories, and all 8 main characters are women in 2 different generational groupings so there are a lot of complicated relationships there, not the least in the stories they tell too.
Shaun(Quote) (Reply)
I’d disagree — Blair and Serena’s friendship is complicated from the get go because of Serena sleeping with Blair’s boyfriend and from what I remember, even tho there’s more to that, Blair doesn’t know that.
Maria(Quote) (Reply)
I always saw Sarah Jane as a mentor to Maria (and later Rani). IMO the only female friendship between equals in the Whoniverse is Amy Pond & River Song. Which is kind of ironic since Amy is an ordinary 19-year-old human girl and River is a time-travelling archaologist who may or may not be the Doctor’s murderer and/or wife. But I guess they bonded over their shared hobbies: saving the universe and destroying fezes. *gg*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWYw0CnuSI
M.C.(Quote) (Reply)
OMG! Amy Pond and River Song! YES! Y’know, I sort of wish they’d just leave the Doctor behind and go off and have awesome adventures of their own? Because they’d have some seriously AWESOME adventures!
Groovekittie(Quote) (Reply)
River and Amy are a better example, yes. I believe in the new series, they destroy a stetson too. But hey, if Amy can flat out [i]order[/i] reality to have the Doctor in it, and have reality blink first, then she’s anyone’s equal.
SunlessNick(Quote) (Reply)
It’s not Booth being conservative that bothers me so much as him being a dick who bullies his way through life, even when he has no reason to. I imagine he gets the attention of a waiter by wiping the specials off the board, flashing his badge when someone comes over to stop him, and ordering a coffee.
Also, the show definitely agrees with Booth about everything. Every episode ends with Booth giving a speech, with the acting, lighting, music and general mood making him look like a wise mentor, even when he’s talking about how fetishists clearly have bad sex. One-shot characters who don’t live the 2.4 kid lifestyle (or aren’t planning on doing so) are either stupid, immoral, in the process of changing their minds or some combination of the three. Anjela reveals that despite her wild sexuality and cheerful hedonism her life-long dream was to settle down with a man and have a million babies (this wouldn’t bother me if it weren’t for everything else). He has his flaws, but his philosophy is apparently the only good and correct one, if you believe the show.
Tristan J(Quote) (Reply)
But Amy would have never remembered to challenge reality, if River hadn’t given her the diary. So I say it was teamwork.
Also, it’s kind of hilarious that one of the big spoilers for the next series is: Amy & River destroy a stetson. lol
M.C.(Quote) (Reply)
Oh, forgot to mention this one! Petite Princess Yucie, about five Chosen girls competing to be worthy of a magical crown that can grant wishes. They go to the same school, do missions as part of the “worthiness” training, get tangled in adventures – and become close friends. In the end, their friendship plays an extremely important part in the story.
Sunatic(Quote) (Reply)
I think the world is totally ready for a Amy&River – Rocking the Universe spin-off. The only problem is: noone would be watching DW without those two.
btw: I just found this cool Doctor Who/Star Wars crossover. And who ends up defeating Darth Vader? Is it the Doctor? No, it’s Amy Pond, because it’s just so obvious that she’s more badass than the Doctor and Luke Skywalker combined. lol (And I can just guess that River in her black catsuit is stealing money from the Emperor *gg*):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL5ud5_K-GY
M.C.(Quote) (Reply)
The title characters in the series Rizzoli and Isles seem to have a pretty good female “buddy/bestie” relationship despite being extremely different people.
Amanda W.(Quote) (Reply)
Classics: Esther and Ada in Dickens’s Bleak House, Sara and Becky in Burnett’s A Little Princess, Bonnie and Sylvia in Aiken’s The Wolves of Willoughby Chase
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I had to have a look through my TV collection just to see if I could make a more useful contribution to this than “thirding Willow and Buffy!” Rather depressingly, I can only really add:
Nessa and Stacey (Gavin & Stacey) have a very long-term friendship feel to them. They aren’t at all the same “type” of characters so it feels like their bond is more substantial than “we do each other’s hair!” or something equally superficial (Nessa would not stand for that bullshit, I think). I also love that Nessa totally at home with Stacy’s family, because there are a lot of shows that tell us the characters have been BFs FOREVER but still they act like the parents/siblings of the other friend are complete strangers, which doesn’t really ring true in most circumstances.
Though I’d second the Wonderfalls and Sarah Jane Adventures references, even though you can argue that the latter is more a mentor thing. SJA is great though because it takes a 60 year old woman (seriously!) and a tween and allows them to become close friends, while acknowledging their obvious differences. It’s great to see at a time where IRL we are encouraging people to be more and more insular within their own peer group.
In the Doctor Who expanded universe, Leela and Romana also become really close friends, which is kind of interesting considering that they started out in very different places.
And because Buffy and WIllow were the first to spring to mind, I have to add that I can remember several major fallings out, but they are usually about things like Willow not just wanting to be a sidekick or Buffy asking too much or whathaveyou. You know, the stuff normal friends fall out over.
Jaynie(Quote) (Reply)
Oh, and I just thought of some of my favourite books as a tween: the Circle of Magic series by Tamora Pierce. THe main characters didn’t start out really liking each other at all, but were fire-forged into a closer-than-siblings status (and there is only one guy in the group of four, who is treated more like one of the girls). As well, the women whose house they live in are long time best friends, and even though they don’t feature very heavily, the vibe is definitely there.
Jaynie(Quote) (Reply)
Agree with you on the three girls becoming fast friends (along with the boy). But Rosethorn and Lark, their foster mothers, are a couple. The subtext is there in early books and in one of the later books (Will of the Empress, I believe) they do spell it out that it’s a sexual relationship.
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