I attended my sister’s graduation from South Carolina School of Leadership this weekend and heard some pretty awful things that were really quite normal in context, but from the outside perspective I bring these days, I heard them with some measure of shock and dismay.
A female graduate asked to speak about what her time at SCSL meant to her, said she had felt that she was “pretty much all right” when she came to SCSL and came to get closer to god and learn about faith. “But,” she said, “I used to be kind of a feminist about relationships, because when I was a child, I saw women being weak in relationships and I decided I didn’t want to be like that, and then when I went to the marriage class, I learned how marriage works best when the man is the head and women are submissive and that’s not being weak.”
Another one taught to ignore the evidence of her experience of real life and indoctrinated into the patriarchy.
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Both say a lot about society, most of it depressing.
SarahSyna(Quote) (Reply)
Yeah, I got that!
And as I lurvs me some etymology I enjoyed the history!
The Other Anne(Quote) (Reply)
Not to mention that the one sin Jesus is repeatedly quoted as saying is the one unforgivable sin is blasphemy and disbelief. So, well, turns out I’m a worse person than, like, the actually bad people in the world that hurts others in various ways. Awesome?
The Other Anne(Quote) (Reply)
I saw that on a show called Balderdash and Piffle (which is about finding the origins of quirky words and phrases), from the awesome Bettany Hughes. I found it depressing too.
SunlessNick(Quote) (Reply)
The concept of being a “she-bro”/honorary maleness/exceptional femaleness doesn’t irk me as much as some DOUCHE on an imageboard I frequent conflating a woman who has lots of male friends and sticks up for them ’til the bitter end and doesn’t take shit from nobody as being a femme-dom…WAT? Strong-willed woman = dominatrix? WAT WAT WAT (I guess it’s slightly better than just being written off as a bitch but that’s still SO INCREDIBLY fucking stupid)
Casey(Quote) (Reply)
Oh yeah! Because of that, I insist on calling female werewolves “wyfwolves”.
(this is an aside, but I’m sick of people calling female humanoid robots “androids”….THEY ARE GYNOIDS, DAMMIT!)
Casey(Quote) (Reply)
I haven’t read much about Quiverfull, but I’ve heard about it. I know someone who believes all forms of family planning, including abstinence within marriage and the ineffective natural family planning method, are ungodly because you should just have however many kids god chooses to give you.
She’s currently on food stamps and has been, with her 7 (8?) children and her chronically unemployed husband, for many years.
In any case, I heard about Quiverful from a mutual friend of ours, who is torn between lunacy and reality.
Firebird(Quote) (Reply)
I remember being in church and praying and unable to shake the feeling that God must hate me because he made me a woman – if he had loved me, he would have made me a man. Not because men have it better in the world – if I was going to complain to god about the situation he placed me in, giving me a home life complete with abuse, fanatical religion, and both parents with diagnosable mental disorders would have topped that list – but because I could never shake a feeling of guilt for being a female, a feeling that I was approaching god with 3 strikes against me just for my gender, something I couldn’t do anything about.
Firebird(Quote) (Reply)
If you read some secular Biblical criticism, from scholars of a linguistic/historical bent, you will find that the first creation story in Genesis 1 and the second creation story in Genesis 2 were written by two different authors (or religious groups) likely at different times of history with different focuses in mind when writing. While Christianity and Judaism hold that they are one story, written or perhaps dictated by Moses, scholarly criticism pretty much shows that’s not possible. So as to why? Because the other religious camp told the creation story a different way, and the redactor/editor who came along later and put it all together into one book decided to just put one story right after the other instead of only including one story or the other, or cutting them together verse by verse (as s/he did with the story of Noah) or cutting them together in the middle (as with one of the sin/plague stories in the desert) or separating them widely in the text (as with the two stories about Moses getting water from a rock).
Firebird(Quote) (Reply)
THIS.
Jennifer Kesler(Quote) (Reply)
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