Comments on: Links of Great Interest 10/2/09 http://thehathorlegacy.com/links-of-great-interest-10209/ Fresh-baked media snark, served with love. Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:47:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jennifer Kesler http://thehathorlegacy.com/links-of-great-interest-10209/#comment-90168 Jennifer Kesler Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:17:51 +0000 http://thehathorlegacy.com/?p=4301#comment-90168 Jha, thanks for that information. It reminds me of the stigmatism that "bastards" were stuck with until the last few decades in the US. It's always struck me as a very non-pragmatic way of thinking: if you deliberately hamper an individual's "value" to their nation/state/world, how can they possibly contribute the most they are capable of? And shouldn't nations/states/the world <i>want</i> people contributing all they can? Maria, I have heard a bit of what you're talking about in regards to abortion, but haven't pursued it because it's so depressing. Jha, thanks for that information. It reminds me of the stigmatism that “bastards” were stuck with until the last few decades in the US. It’s always struck me as a very non-pragmatic way of thinking: if you deliberately hamper an individual’s “value” to their nation/state/world, how can they possibly contribute the most they are capable of? And shouldn’t nations/states/the world want people contributing all they can?

Maria, I have heard a bit of what you’re talking about in regards to abortion, but haven’t pursued it because it’s so depressing.

]]> By: Jha http://thehathorlegacy.com/links-of-great-interest-10209/#comment-90167 Jha Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:05:03 +0000 http://thehathorlegacy.com/?p=4301#comment-90167 Jennifer Kesler: Yes. YES they are. In Chinese family philosophy, what you do will reflect onto your family. So a parent's crime will affect the child - whether it means the child will be haunted by the ghost of the parent's crime, or will do the same thing continuing the line. Either way, as a child, if your parents do something bad, then you're tainted. Goes both ways too - I was given a ton of crap for behaving badly because it would "reflect badly on my parents" and make it look like they'd done some shit to deserve the karma of having a horrible child the rest of society couldn't approve of. Jennifer Kesler: Yes. YES they are. In Chinese family philosophy, what you do will reflect onto your family. So a parent’s crime will affect the child – whether it means the child will be haunted by the ghost of the parent’s crime, or will do the same thing continuing the line. Either way, as a child, if your parents do something bad, then you’re tainted. Goes both ways too – I was given a ton of crap for behaving badly because it would “reflect badly on my parents” and make it look like they’d done some shit to deserve the karma of having a horrible child the rest of society couldn’t approve of.

]]> By: Maria V. http://thehathorlegacy.com/links-of-great-interest-10209/#comment-90141 Maria V. Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:27:25 +0000 http://thehathorlegacy.com/?p=4301#comment-90141 Yes, the victim-blaming is strong in this political moment. Did you hear that abortion support is going down? Yes, the victim-blaming is strong in this political moment.

Did you hear that abortion support is going down?

]]> By: Jennifer Kesler http://thehathorlegacy.com/links-of-great-interest-10209/#comment-90136 Jennifer Kesler Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:36:25 +0000 http://thehathorlegacy.com/?p=4301#comment-90136 I'm sorry, are people actually giving Lou Jing crap because of her parents' behavior? Am I understanding this properly? The insurance thing - I just *knew* someone would argue that it might encourage women to leave their abusers. I am so encouraged that another commenter rebuts this with: "Did you know that 85% of murders in marriages on the rocks due to domestic abuse occur AFTER the abused spouse has left or attempted to leave? The rhetoric of "she should leave" is thinly disguised victim-blaming, and you didn't bother to disguise it at all. Leaving increases their risks of escalated violence and poverty and, as we now find out, actually being treated for injuries rising out of domestic abuse can result in you being denied medical coverage for the rest of your life." The privilege involved in thinking, "If she doesn't like it, why doesn't she just leave?" is astounding. People who beat up on their own family members are psychos. Psychos are unpredictable and willing to do whatever it takes to get their way. That's why some people don't dare leave. I’m sorry, are people actually giving Lou Jing crap because of her parents’ behavior? Am I understanding this properly?

The insurance thing – I just *knew* someone would argue that it might encourage women to leave their abusers. I am so encouraged that another commenter rebuts this with: “Did you know that 85% of murders in marriages on the rocks due to domestic abuse occur AFTER the abused spouse has left or attempted to leave?

The rhetoric of “she should leave” is thinly disguised victim-blaming, and you didn’t bother to disguise it at all. Leaving increases their risks of escalated violence and poverty and, as we now find out, actually being treated for injuries rising out of domestic abuse can result in you being denied medical coverage for the rest of your life.”

The privilege involved in thinking, “If she doesn’t like it, why doesn’t she just leave?” is astounding. People who beat up on their own family members are psychos. Psychos are unpredictable and willing to do whatever it takes to get their way. That’s why some people don’t dare leave.

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