Links of Great Interest: Percy Jackson is now a lot less interesting

Jesus, Regis! Keep your hands to yourself and NOT on Nicki Minaj’s ass. WTF.

Elizabeth Edwards died earlier this week of cancer.

BET says: women can only be sexy, not sexual.

One blogger reflects on weight-loss porn.

Tila Tequila has no right to control her own sexuality.

Here’s a great analysis of the Percy Jackson series by ZahrawithaZ. YAY to MC for sending it in!! (BTW Did no one else think Percy was going to be played by a POC? I really imagined him as a mixed race. Yeees he’s mixed immortal/mortal. Nooo that doesn’t count.)

w00t! We might get a Raven show! I’m hoping that she and Starfire are secret best friends! :D

Anna reflects on the Montreal Massacre.

SHIT JUST GOT REAL. The Art Museum Directors’ Association has called out the Smithsonian for censoring an exhibit.

From Lindsay:

This is an examination of ‘stereotype threat’ and improving the scores of female physics students, much as the URL suggests, using a daily affirmation exercise.

Tina Gerow (published under the name Cassie Ryan) needs your help.

From Scarlett: Wang Bei dies in surgery: a tale of death and the quest for beauty.

Preserving Virtual Worlds has generated some awesome readings.

Child abuse doesn’t look like Batman or Smurfette!

Survivors of sex trafficking speak out.

Poverty, children, and region: in short, we’re screwed. No, seriously, that food production issue is kind of a big deal. But it’s one of the side effects of a model of globalization where particular zones of the world are valued for particular types of labor, and then those types of labors are valued at different levels financially and hierarchically.

These things are not contradictory: Julian Assange may be a rapist

Anyone checked out Charles de Lint’s latest? It features Afro-Asian fusion and a main character of color.

Helen Mirren tells it like it is!

The Australian military reconsiders its policy about transgendered soldiers.

Sundance offers a fellowship for Native people working in film!!

Do the young people irritate the shit out of you with their hip hoppity music and their fast-talking…words? Check out Justin Bieber… 800% slower.

Teacher suspended for asking if black private parts are really bigger.

Classism and racism make privileged people less empathic.

VERY IMPORTANT PLEASE READ

Hey, remember International Literacy Day, and how I said literacy is a feminist issue? One of the organizations I highlighted, Lifting Voices, needs your help! They have the opportunity to join GlobalGiving’s extremely powerful network of partnerships and mentoring, but only if they are able to fund raise 4000 dollars in the next week. ANY LITTLE BIT HELPS! Want something to inspire and amuse? Check out their YT channel, where the kids talk about THEIR truths and everyday lives.

I gotta say… I volunteered with LV for about a year, and their work? It’s AMAZING. I was mostly at the domestic violence shelter where they hold reading/writing sessions, and the kids LOVED getting one-on-one attention with adults who really cared about what the kids were thinking. Some of the stories they told were heartbreaking. Below’s a video that includes stories and reflections from several of the sites LV serves, so you can get a sample of the kinds of writing kids share when they know adults are willing to listen.

I know it’s a hard time of year, but if you could donate and/or boost the signal, I would really appreciate it. Time is running out!

Comments

  1. Scarlett says

    Re: Tila Tequila: I just don’t get how people can differentiate between being able to exploit your ‘talents’# for your own gain and *others* being allowed to exploit your talents for *their* own gain. With anything else, there’d be no question that it’s a person’s talent to exploit as they see fit: an author can publish or squirrel away their works in the basement and no-one has the right to use their words or even demand publication the way they – the audience – wants. How does this not apply to using your sexuality? Is the next step to say prostitutes *must* have sex with everyone who propositions them BECAUSE THAT’S HOW THEY MAKE THEIR LIVING???

    #I don’t like Tila Teqila or what she stands for, and I question her so-called talent, but I stand by her right to use it to make money for herself and not have others using it against her permission to make money for THEMselves.

  2. M.C. says

    First talks of a Wonder Woman show now a Raven show? Yes please! :)

    I always thought of Percy Jackson as white. Because IMO part of his story is: white straight boy, who should have every privilege in this world, learns what it’s like to have no privilege because he’s disabled and poor. And then he makes friends with people who are also disabled and/or female and/or POC.
    Just for the record: I think Zoe was a great character, she’s one of my favourite POC heroines in literature, but I do realize that the way her story line turned out was problematic.

    • Maria says

      Huh. I guess part of why I thought of him as a POC/mixed race in the books is because boys of color are more likely to be diagnosed as special needs

      http://forms.gradsch.psu.edu/diversity/mcnair/2003/maddox.pdf

      I know that’s not from a journal, but it’s the first source I found that wasn’t behind an academic firewall.

      Anyways, him being white makes the series a little less interesting to me. I mean, poor white guy who’s secretly a hero accompanied by a wacky cast of not-like-him’s is like… pretty standard.

      • M.C. says

        From your link: African American children, specifically, have been found to be less likely to be treated for ADHD even after receiving a diagnosis when compared to their Caucasian counterparts.
        Fuck you, world!

        Yeah, I always thought Percy Jackson was pretty standard. Which is why it surprised me that he was more like a supportive protagonist and the true heroes were Annabeth, Thalia, Zoe, Grover. Percy just kina tagged along and helped them out. lol
        Oh well, I guess the author is trying to make up for his race fail with the new series “Heroes of Olympus”. Two of the three main characters are POC: Piper is (half?)-Cherokee, Leo is a Latino…

        Why is it so hard to find a good book that treats gender, disability and race in a satisfying way?! The only one I can think of is ‘Vampire Academy’. The heroine, Rose, is half Turkish half Caucasian; her best friend, Lissa, has a mental illness. They’re both very awesome female characters. So I guess this book series counts as getting everything right. Plus it passes the Bechdel test, since the main relationship is the friendship between Rose&Lissa.

        • Maria says

          Hmmm. I’ve been skipping the Vampire Academy books because I had the impression they were like Gossip Girls meets Twilight. I’ll have to rethink that and check it out!

    • Brand Robins says

      I always thought of Percy as being Greek. Which is mostly white now days. Maybe not on Orthodox Christmas, but white the rest of the time.

      And I can’t really argue with the post about the problems of race in the series. It’s pretty much spot on.

      The problem is the movie is worse, on just about every level.

      • Brand Robins says

        Sorry for the double post, but this just hit me.

        One of my dearest friends is Greek, and his reaction to the whole “Greece as the Origin of Western Culture” especially as it plays in works like Percy Jackson, is almost always extremely negative.

        His stance on it is that more often than not it is an act of cultural appropriation used by western europeans to give themselves a sense of antiquity and a legitimation for their anti-orientalism. (See the movie 300.) So when you have a group of non-Greek pretty much “white” in the Anglo sense of white kids running about defending “Western Culture” (which is all one thing) without any real conception of how Greek society and culture worked then or now…

        Well, we accept it without a lot of thought. Which we wouldn’t do if they were Anglo kids running about defending the legacy of the Outlaws of the Water Margin.

        • says

          This is interesting, because at one point we were debating whether referring to “Hathor” in the name of the site was cultural appropriation or just a literary reference (the name came from my discovery that, over time, the goddess Hathor went from being one scary punisher to a meek little home and hearth goddess – like so many mythical and fictitious women have done since). I concede there’s certainly room to consider it appropriating, but mused in passing that if I’d referred to Athena in the name, we wouldn’t be talking about “appropriating” since we claim to be the cultural descendants of the Romans and Greeks – but what’s that based on, really? I always preferred Egyptian history, anyway – at least they had a couple of well-known queens. Seems like the Romans and Greeks damn near erased women completely.

          • Casey says

            So much so that Zeus gave birth to Athena, yeah they had a monopoly on female erasure. :|
            (the so-called “classical world” is so fucking overrated…I just like Hellenistic sculpture is all)

          • Brand Robins says

            Yea, its a pickle isn’t it?

            I doubt my friend would have minded the site being named Athena. He doesn’t usually have a problem with folks using ancient Greek gods for stuff. It’s more about the political appropriation and cultural mess.

            Like how the French and British in the early imperial age were talking about Greece and the Light of Western Civilization while taking active measures to exploit, control, or deport the Greeks moving to their countries after the civil war, or just outright annex parts of Greece. Its hard in that light to see it as anything about admiration, and easy to see it as about claiming the title of Empire of the World that Alex and Julius took on.

            So now you have an American writing about the “Light of Western Civilization” (barf) and putting it in America. Because all that was good about Greece now BELONGS TO US. The Greeks certainly don’t deserve it anymore because… well… because they’re Greek!

            Sure, they invented all that democracy stuff (let us ignore the Indian city states that were democratic at the same time or even slightly before Athens), but they wasted it by getting conquered by Turks (or something). Now America, a land whose traditions are probably 85% north European with a 15% classical overlay at the higher levels of government, is the “real Greece.”

            OTOH, using Hathor isn’t claiming that we own Hathor. (I don’t think.) Or claiming to be the rightful inheritors of the Egyptian tradition. It’s using a referent, but it isn’t claiming ownership of it.

            But then, I named my old blog Yudhishthira’s Dice, so I may have some personal stake in the naming game.

        • Casey says

          My mom would probably say the Greeks don’t deserve any of the awesome stuff their ancestors came up with because they like anal sex and fuck goats.[/crass hateful stereotype is crass and hateful]

        • Patrick McGraw says

          Please do not use “Anglo” to mean “white” or “perceived as white by Western culture.” I’m white, Western culture perceives me as white, but I am NOT Anglo.

          This is a bit of racefail that continues to bug me. It is not acceptable to use one group as a synecdoche for a larger group. No matter who the groups in question are.

          • says

            We had a big discussion on this a while back with Anemone, and I totally get that you’re right. But I’m confused about which terms mean what. I mean, for example, talking about “white privilege” is really all wrong because many Jews are white, and Spanish people are white, and some Spanish-descended people consider themselves white, but those people don’t enjoy white privilege in contexts where their ethnicity is known. Anybody seen a list of precise and correct ways to refer to the actual groups of white people who get white privilege, as opposed to the full range of white people, some of which are assigned an overriding privilege-removing ethnicity?

          • Brand Robins says

            Apologies if I offended.

            When I said “White” in the “Anglo” sense of “White” I meant “Anglo” — not Italian, not Irish, not Greek, not Polish, not any of the other national backgrounds that now days are “white” but that in recent history were not always white.

            So I was trying (though apparently failing) to point out the difference between Anglo and White, and that in Percy Jackson many of the characters are not only “White”, but full out Anglo.

            Does that make sense, or am I still guilty of some race-fail here?

            • says

              Ah, here’s the thread where this came up before – here!)

              And here’s Patrick’s comment from there: “The use of “Anglo” to mean white people in general, or people whose lineage goes back to the British isles specifically, really irks me. It erases people’s ethnic identity (I’m Irish-American, I an NOT AN ANGLO). It’s no different from using the term “Mexica” to refer to all Latino people.”

              IIUC, that means it’s okay to use it to refer to British-descendants, but not white people in general?

          • Brand Robins says

            Jennifer,

            I don’t have a list, but for a difficult and interesting look at how Anglo privilege started becoming White privilege in one specific case I can recommend “How the Irish Became White” by Noel Ignatiev.

            The book is, basically, a summation of how the Irish were an oppressed non-Anglo group who became part of the privileged class by demonstrating extreme racism and helping to classify race not as ethnicity but as color.

            (It was also hard as hell for me to read, being Welsh/Irish in descent.)

          • Patrick McGraw says

            I’m not really sure what terms would be good for referring to “whiteness” as a social construct, but using the name of any ethnicity just doesn’t work.

          • Maria says

            Because power doesn’t work like a pyramid and is always in flux you wouldn’t speak of people who are white but don’t have white privilege. You’d speak of situational white priv, and pay particular attention to context and the movement of power through spaces and times. You also wouldn’t speak of particular identities trumping other identities (IE being Latin@ and speaking with an accent doesn’t trump being fair-skinned) because of the ways in which structures of power and feelings interact on the micro and macro levels.

            You could maybe talk about power being conditional, like how for a while there the Irish were only white if they bought into whiteness and didn’t ally themselves politically with POC.

            Here, you can see the many ways whiteness has been defined in critical race theory:
            http://academic.udayton.edu/race/01race/white02.htm

          • Patrick McGraw says

            Thanks for the link, Maria. It explains things better than I could, especially how “whiteness” differs from ethnicity.

            That bingo card… I’m afraid I actually came pretty close to getting bingo during my freshman year in college.

  3. mhari says

    Child abuse doesn’t look like Batman or Smurfette!

    The level of sheer rage in some of the comments on that post is seriously weirding me out.

      • mhari says

        Hah! Yes. LIKE MAGIC

        And the thing is, the post is exactly right: raising awareness is great, but this isn’t raising awareness. At best it’s maintaining awareness at its current level, which is… fine, I guess, but not really a blow struck for justice.

        What gets me is how FURIOUS this observation is making people. Guys, it’s a blogger questioning the ultimate utility of your Facebook avatar, not an indictment of your very soul. ¯\(o_O)/¯

        • says

          I’ve read enough support of that little meme (which kind of demonstrates it’s uselessness–it was a profile pic meme–though I did participate) from abuse survivors to merely appreciate it as the show of solidarity I think it was, and also read enough of these criticisms of it to agree that it was, ultimately, incredibly silly. One the plus side, it got a bunch of blogs to share ways to help in direct response to the original meme’s uselessness, sso though the profile pic thing wasn’t the greatest, all the productive responses such as the blog linked to here are a plus.

          Though it also made me realize I have a lot of anon friends. A lot of my flist put up pedobear pics. D:

        • Shaun says

          You know, it’s not really the blogger’s place to tell survivors of child abuse whether or not what they’re doing is a waste of time, and s/he does not know which people participating in this campaign have been abused or not. So maybe there’s a reason for commenters, many of whom have identified themselves as child abuse survivors, to be aggravated with the writer’s smarmy bullshit.

          S/he is not following the personal lives of each of these people to know whether or not they are campaigning against child abuse in their daily lives or having conversations about it. Further, this campaign? Has directly led to people having conversations and sharing information on how to help including the blogger.

          So, yes, there is a problem with someone telling survivors of child abuse what is and is not helpful to SURVIVORS OF CHILD ABUSE.

          • Brand Robins says

            You’ve got a point.

            OTOH, I have two friends who changed their icons as part of this campaign who are not survivors of child abuse. And they are guilty of most of the narcissistic, useless slacktivism that the article accuses them of.

            I also have to wonder… if the movement was useless, how useless is an article criticizing it?

            Sure, maybe some interesting posts come of it. But if the changing of icons was not the best use of the minimal time it took to change an icon, was the time it took to criticize it the best use of time? Couldn’t something positive have been created, rather than yet another example of activists attacking other activists for having the wrong activism?

            And what about this post, is it the best use of my time? Is it going to change anything at all?

            :|

          • Maria says

            Couldn’t something positive have been created, rather than yet another example of activists attacking other activists for having the wrong activism?

            I don’t think people who change their profile pictures would consider themselves activists if that’s all they’re doing. I don’t think I saw any of the people I saw changing their icons say that. THere’s a difference between raising awareness, caring about an issue, and being an activist.

            And actually, with both this post on Hathor and the other post, there IS something you can do. You can donate money or time to any of the organizations featured. :D That’s your choice, and it’s your effort that decides whether your reading is passive or active.

          • says

            Do we know the blogger herself never experienced child abuse?

            I’m a survivor of it, too, and I’m going to be candid here: I thought the whole thing on Facebook was just another way for people to pat themselves on the back (“Oooh, I changed a pic, I’m so nice!”), and it made me hate humanity a little more than usual. Then I was stunned at the response from survivors in her comments. But it reminded me: I’ve had a lot more support than many survivors. My reactions rarely match up with the majority of them, largely for that reason.

            That was my emotional reaction. This is my thoughtful one: I think the blogger had a good point, I didn’t find her tone offensive, and I think the fact that so many survivors found the FB thing comforting enough to want to defend it just shows what a gaping lack of support people get for this issue.

          • Shaun says

            Jennifer, it doesn’t matter if the blogger is a survivor or not. She still doesn’t get to tell other abuse survivors that they’re doing it wrong. It’s great that she helpfully provided all these facts about child abuse. She could have done that without explicitly implying that everyone doing this needs this so they can have “informed conversations,” because obviously no one doing this knows what the hell they’re talking about.

            Look, some abuse survivors are going to like it. Some aren’t. I actually felt GOOD seeing all the profile pics once someone explained to me what the campaign was, because even if they’re not doing anything else, they’re at least acknowledging, yes, child abuse exists. That’s more than I see in my day-to-day life.

            I don’t have any problem with the blogger not liking it, I would never presume to tell her she should be grateful people are changing their profile pics to cartoons on Facebook, and neither would I stomp in and tell her how SHE should be doing her child abuse advocacy. She needs to afford everyone else the same courtesy.

          • Shaun says

            Honestly I think your comment kind of proves my point. You had a different emotional reaction from me, but you didn’t invalidate the feelings of other survivors, you actually explicitly thought about and acknowledged the legitimacy of others’ emotional reactions.

            • says

              But I’m afraid I would have invalidated their feelings if I’d written the article before she did, because I never would have seen that reaction (Facebook defense) coming either. It wouldn’t have occurred to me. I thought her responses in comments were rather fair overall – the way I try to respond when I find I’ve put my foot in it simply because it never occurred to me some people would take something THAT differently from how I did.

              I’m not disagreeing that she could’ve said it better.

  4. says

    BET says: women can only be sexy, not sexual.

    I think what they really mean by “too suggestive” sometimes is “too assertive.” Remember the Lane Bryant underwear commercial that was less nakedy and more classy than its Victoria’s Secret counterparts? But it got banned, because it featured her going off to see a man – WHO MIGHT NOT BE HER HUSBAND, OH DEAR GOD – wearing nothing but an overcoat and her sexy underwear. And that cleric in Iran thinks female sexuality causes earthquakes. Yeah, I’m seeing a pattern.

    Here’s my question about Tila Tequila’s situation: imagine she’s a hot male actor or singer instead of a woman. Would the judge have argued “He exploits his sexuality anyway”? Never – because men (at least in the usual heteronormative context) CAN’T. Men can exploit their beauty, but that’s not seen as their sexuality. No one presumes they are begging to be raped by women of all descriptions. Therefore, because you can’t gender flip the argument without laughing, it’s not acceptable in law.

    Additionally, there’s the gigantic logic flaw in the argument: it’s a bit like saying because the judge was exploiting his house (by living in it), he should also have to share it with an infinite succession of squatters. Which I quite like as a punishment.

    Really, Helen Mirren? Wasn’t it just last year you were explaining to us how date rape is something people should work out among themselves instead of taking to court? Read a crime stat, stupid. Rapists keep raping. They rape lots of people. Just how many women should have to “work it out with” a repeat felon before you think the poor man should go to court? Fuck off, rape apologist.

    I’ve got an Assange post on Monday. I can’t believe this shit. But, then, Helen Mirren.

    The thing about the teacher suspended for trying to teach kids about stuff they’re already learning the rumor-mill way… well, I’d have to see the whole test in context to decide whether I think she got it right, but it’s not a bad idea at all. Some of the utter bullshit you “learn” from your friends or the net is terrifying in hindsight. I think somehow the topics need to be broached. But in the US, parents want schools to teach that storks bring babies, and I think the disease is spreading. It’s not really about religious beliefs or concern for the kids; it’s about parents thinking, “Well, maybe if we ignore the problem, it will go away.” That’s not adult thinking.

    • The Other Patrick says

      Assange… wow. I know this is not your post, but you mentioned him. I am flabbergasted at how he is villified, and how Wikileaks is treated right now, but that doesn’t mean you can go around and heap abuse on the women in the rape case because, you know, Assange being a rapist and Assange doing good by publishing the documents are totally reconcilable. In fact, the way WL has come to be seen as being more or less identical to Assange might even suggest a little bit of narcisissim on Assange’s part, and that would totally fit.

      • Brand Robins says

        The real problem I have is Assange being one to one conflated with Wikileaks. If he did something bad, Wikileaks is bad. If Wikileaks is good, he could have done nothing wrong.

        Bah.

        Aside from the shit its caused around the rape case, its damaging in other ways. The medium is now outplaying the message, and Assange is outplaying the medium and the message combined.

        Screw him. Just read the documents people.

        • says

          People are better at conflating than they are at thinking.

          No, seriously. Conflating and stereotyping are shortcuts for thinking. They were awesome many years ago: we’d stereotype human-eating tigers as predators and run like hell if we saw them. And if we saw some other type of cat, well, rather than stick around and see if it was friendly, we’d just conflate it with the tiger and run like hell.

          • Brand Robins says

            Bah!

            Sigh.

            Yes, true.

            Also, most folks are conflating the whole wikileaks with “things damaging to the US and showing that they are evil.” And while there are a few of those (or maybe more than a few) there are also a lot of reports in there showing Americans trying to be balanced, trying to do the right thing, and trying to give just voice to complicated issues. Like, I had some level of respect for the woman who sent this cable: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/243811

  5. says

    The follow-on series to the Percy Jackson series (first book came out in Oct, “The Lost Hero”), has 2 PoC main characters. Half Native-American girl and Hispanic boy.

  6. says

    This topic made me reconsider checking out Percy Jackson, and I just bought the first one (sans icky movie poster cover), and I am kind of excited to read it with all of this in mind, especially because in my own writing I appropriate from mythologies and cultures not my own, and What Not To Do is Very Very Important for people who do that.

    In other news, when I looked up Percy Jackson on wikipedia, one thing that stood out to me in character descriptions was that for PoC race was mentioned but for white characters it was not. Yet another very blatant example of white being the assumed default.

  7. Lindsey says

    I was honestly put off trying the Percy Jackson series because it was marketed/portrayed as yet another series of books about a young white straight male chosen hero who probably had a delightful supporting cast whose agency would be sacrificed to his glorification.

    That it might be more than that, problematic racial politics aside, nudges me to maybe try and read it someday. Especially since it’s finished–I really hate waiting for next books to come out.

    I really find the debate over what “whiteness” is and how we can define and describe it to be deeply interesting, examining all kinds of assumptions of default. There are a lot of stories of pre-20th century Europeans destroying murals or other works of art from the “classical” period that didn’t fit their perceptions of how that period was actually “supposed” to be. It’s a terrible tragedy that artifacts from any culture would be lost that way.

    • Casey says

      Reminds me of a special I saw on maybe the History Channel or National Geographic where a bunch of archeologists were looking for Christ’s tomb and instead found a series of secret caves used as early Christian churches. There were murals on the wall that showed a man and two women giving a sermon, but somebody had smashed/chiseled out the women’s faces and the “peace-sign” hand gesture that show you’re preaching gospel or whatever it is.

      Somebody REALLY didn’t want women in the church. :(

          • says

            Well, I didn’t mean to imply the Church did that specific thing (though it is possible). I was just saying that who “REALLY didn’t want women in the church” was the Church leadership. For example, Pope Gregory worked hard to edit the Bible so Mary Magdalene appeared to be a repentant prostitute, but she was actually an “apostle to the apostles”, a devout follower of Jesus who becomes increasingly significant toward the end of his life. And now pop culture wants to make her his wife, because any narrative that involves men fucking her is a better narrative than one that involves a woman having a soul and using it spiritually.

            Whoever desecrated the murals was certainly doing their best to further the Church’s edited version of history, in which women did not ever hold positions in the church.

          • Shaun says

            YES

            I’ve always thought the “Mary Magdalene was Jesus’ wife, OMG!” trope to be secretly misogynist. Everything that she’s doing in that story reads like she’s another Apostle, and Jesus chooses her to spread the word, not any of the others. Even if she was his wife, it’s less significant than her spiritual work.

          • SunlessNick says

            I hadn’t thought it (Mary Magdalene being Jesus’ wife) that way, but it certainly hits home.

            It certainly offers an answer regarding one question I had: if people want examples of women being more important in the early days of Christianity, why don’t they bring up St Thecla more often?

            Thecla is mentioned in a text called the Acts of Paul and Thecla (part of the Acts of Paul), where she preached alongside him, though he refused to baptise her (I’ll get back to that). She was unlike your typical female virgin saint, because she was part of an ascetic tradition that espoused chastity as a virtue for both women and men. She was sentenced to be fed to wild beasts for the “crime” of fending off a rape attempt by a local noblemen, and saved by a miracle where the female beasts defended her from the male ones (also, rather than the typical pagan/christian split in the crowd of who wanted her dead and who cheered for her, the narrative concentrated on the pagans, and split them on gender lines, with the pagan women supporting her). While this was going on, Paul skipped town and left her to die. And Thecla followed her miracle by jumping in a shark tank and declaring that she was baptising herself – and God miraculously fried all the sharks, demonstrating approval of her action – which incidentally was the one thing that Jesus himself said that he couldn’t do.

            Thecla rocks. But she shows up Paul by proving that he was wrong to consider her unworthy of baptism, and by proving him a coward; she espouses abstinence for men as well as women; and she accomplishes something that not even Jesus did. And in the light of what Jennifer Kesler just said, maybe she’s just too much woman for pop culture to want her as a symbol of awesome Christian women.

            • says

              Wow, thanks – I’d never heard of her. I’ll have to look into her. It’s interesting she espouses chastity, because Paul does to some extent as well. Sounds like he got the idea from her.

  8. Casey says

    I would totally start giving a crap about religious movies/sand and sandal epics if someone made a movie about St. Thecla, I never even heard of her until now! :D

  9. Elee says

    Wow, I think it is a first time that I read news about a transgender person (the link about Australian military on transgender soldiers), where the writer used the right gender pronouns. Have I become so jaded that this little bit of everyday tolerance pleases me much more than the big fact itself? Because it shows, that the writer cares about his material?

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