Links of Great Interest: Mars Needs Moms… is not a good movie.

Voices of Heroism: Miki Endo’s warning and refusal to leave her post saved thousands of lives during the tsunami.

Sexism in The Last Guardian.

JOANNA RUSS ROCKS.

Here’s a handy chart breaking down class warfare and taxes in the US.

Parents pay out in Australian schools

Finally an explanation for why dating men is a waste of time. Clearly this article is arguing for same sex marriage!!

Here’s a site documenting misogyny in gaming culture.

Go Metafilter! Mefites help a young woman afford an abortion and provide validation that her ex is a horrid person. Lots of REALLY great discussions highlighting why access to safe, legal, affordable abortion is such an important right. Go hug someone today!

Principal singles out black students for reprimand.

Mars Needs Moms —> homophobic!

Whole buncha of lady ass-beaters coming to a TV near you.

Comments

  1. says

    When I first saw the title of Mars Needs Moms advertised, I was leery, since I knew ’50s movies like Mars Needs Women played on racial stereotypes like the large angry Black man coming to rape your innocent blonde wife (King Kong, anyone?). Under the pressure of Jim Crow laws and the seeds of the civil rights movement, these movies were used to play on White fears and whip up righteous indignation. But I figured it might just be a rose-colored glasses approach to the “wholesome” values of the ’50s, unaware of the ugly history behind it.

    Then this weekend when we were trying to decide what movie to take the kids to, we read the full description of MNM and gave it a pass. It sounded like a stereotypical “average Joe learns he’s something special when his love interest mother is imperiled” movie, sized down for the younger crowd.

    After reading that review…*sigh* I’m glad we didn’t waste the $20. My kids are old enough to realize that being raised by a single mother makes them normal in their generation and products of a “broken home” to older generations, so they wouldn’t be influenced by it directly but it would hurt them and piss them off.

    And it’s interesting to compare the message of Mars Needs Women (interracial relationships are violent and scary!) to the message of Mars Needs Moms (homosexual relationships & single parents are unnatural and scary!). Makes me think it was a deliberate comparison. And it makes me think this is a definite sign of the times.

    • says

      One more thing, though. That review says “take your kids to Rango again” but I was uncomfortable with the undertones of ableism (It’s funny to laugh at people with seizure disorders!) and sexism (If you kiss a girl when she’s unconscious, she’ll smile at you when she comes to!). These were subtle things rather than overt as Mars Needs Moms apparently is, so the movie’s “better” in that sense, but I’d still have a conversation with my kids about it.

      • The Other Anne says

        Yeah, I have been utterly unimpressed with kids movies this year. I work at my local theater as a projectionist so I get to sample movies before I see them. Both Rango and MNM are getting passed over, and I don’t even have kids I’m worried about. I just really don’t want to see more of that same old crap after having to suffer through screening Just Go With It, Hall Pass, and Barney’s Version for work. Upcoming films don’t show much promise either, unfortunately.

        How old are your kids (if you don’t mind me asking–if you do, obviously, I’m sorry and no need to answer :))? I’m wondering because, well, I want to be an animation director and writer so I’m always kind of wondering about these things. Do they (and you) like The Iron Giant, any Don Bluth films, PIXAR, etc? Any Miyazaki or other anime? Avatar: The Last Airbender (and if so are they as excited for Korra as I am?)?

        • says

          As a matter of fact, I love talking about my kids! *whips out wallet and shows you pictures* My sister is 15 and my brother is 12. (I call them “my” kids because I’m ten years older and I’ve supplemented our single mother’s raising of them, especially during the years she was medically bedridden.)

          My sister loves anime. In our Netflix queue right now there is Darker than Black, Fullmetal Alchemist, Orphen and Fruits Basket. My brother will watch with her if there’s a surreal element but leaves if it’s contemporary or prosaic. Other than anime she prefers live action, I think because the American stigma that cartoons are for children ensures that most cartoons are too young for her to enjoy.

          My brother actually prefers documentaries to entertainment; How Things Are Made, The Universe, anything about medieval warfare. His favorite movies are probably Labyrinth, Mirror Mask and Spirited Away. Which is interesting to me because all three of those have a female protagonist lost in a surreal world, yet when it comes to books he has a tendency to prefer male narrators.

          They like Pixar films and recent Disney films, but it seems more jokey entertainment to them. For a few weeks after they see each film, they go around repeating the funny lines to each other and imitating whichever characters had weird voices. For their other movies they discuss it seriously and have long conversations about the implications. Pixar doesn’t get that reaction from them.

          They both love Avatar: The Last Airbender. They marathoned through all three seasons and still rewatch them. When they first heard of Korra, my sister was thrilled she was a girl, while my brother was more thrilled that there was going to be a sequel, period. They were both interested in her history and the backstory of what happened between the two shows, and kept asking me questions I had no way of answering.

          • The Other Anne says

            I WANT TO BE YOU AND YOUR SIBLING’S BEST FRIEND. Is your sister watching FMA: Brotherhood or the earlier anime adaptation? Does she watch the anime that’s on Hulu? There are a lot of options there! (And if you have internet, free! Though there are some mature ones, so if you’re worried about that there’s a fair warning. Though even most of the “mature” ones are heavily edited and the mature aspect is the sadly usual fanservice that demeans women. From the titles you listed it seems like she’s avoiding that, and so I’d recommend if she hasn’t already watched them all (FMA and DtB are among them) the Studio Bones titles. She’s probably already seen them, but Xam’d, Eureka 7, RahXephon, etc. I was about 15 when I started watching all those. (Well, no, I started with Escaflowne, which I highly recommend, and then Evangelion, which I don’t, and Trigun, which I do, all around that age or a little younger. YMMV.)

            Is she more into YA live action? Like, I guess, age-wise if not content wise things like Beastly and I Am Number Four, or more “adult” like Adjustment Bureau? (Again, only examples of age-ness, not content-ness.)

            As for your brother, Mirror Mask? Wow! I am impressed! Such gorgeous animation. And Labyrinth and Spirited Away–great taste! Is he old enough to see Mononoke Hime, and has he seen Nausicaa? I wished I watched more documentaries.

            Now I’m getting all nostalgic for when my sister and I were those ages and goofed like that. :( My sister’s in Ecuador right now, though. I won’t see her for a couple more months, but then we and our mom are going to marathon the old FMA. (I’m 23, sister’s 21. And I’m so glad neither of us stopped being enthusiastic about this sort of thing.)

            The Legend of Korra is coming up this fall! I am too excited about it to think about it. I hope it exceeds expectations and does fill in the backstory…they left a lot open.

            Haha, this was awesome. Made me really happy and not angry at the world! Your kids are cool.

            • says

              She thinks it’s the earlier adaption because it doesn’t say Brotherhood on it. And she says “thank you” for the rec’s and she’ll check them out. :)

              Live action she does like the more YA stuff – adores the Harry Potter films, excited for the upcoming Hunger Games. Her review of I Am Number Four consisted of three lines, though: “There isn’t a single non-white person in the whole movie, not even walking past on the sidewalk or anything! And the badass chick still had to be rescued by the guy. What a rip-off.” (She makes my equalist heart so proud :D)

              I don’t think he’s seen either of those – left to himself, he’d only ever watch documentaries. He only chooses films to watch when he’s forced to compromise with other TV watchers. I think I have Princess Mononoke in my head as recommended by someone else so I’ll have to pass it along to him.

              As far as age goes, they’re both responsible enough that they’re given blanket permission to watch anything PG-13 or lower and then Mom or I go through the Recently Watched once in a while. With a few exceptions (like Family Guy) they generally make good decisions and rarely need to be corrected.

              There isn’t much my whole family agrees on like that. We’re all four excited about Sucker Punch coming out next weekend, but that’s all I can think of.

              Thanks! I know the feeling ;)

            • Patrick McGraw says

              Other Anne, with you on not recommending Evangelion and recommending RahXephon.

              I hated, hated, hated Evangelion, which probably factored into why I loved RahXephon so much – it’s like the anti-Evangelion. Superficially very similar, but where Evangelion is the work of someone going through a psychological breakdown (literally, poor Anno), RahXephon is ultimately about rebirth and renewal.

              (Also, it’s one of the handful of romances that seriously hooked me in emotionally.)

          • Red says

            Let me say this about ‘Legend of Korra’ ; I am VERY HAPPY that Mike and Bryan have decided to make their lead character female. A quote from the interview when the news first broke;

            Konietzko: Mike and I, we love those characters too, and we’ve encountered countless fans who are male who really like those characters too. We just don’t subscribe to the conventional wisdom that you can’t have an action series led by a female character. It’s kinda nonsense to us.

            THAT, right there, demonstrates not only that they pay attention, but that they don’t buy into the Hollywood subscribed ‘conventional wisdom’ that women can’t be action heroes and draw in an audience. Korra, from pictures and conversations, looks badass AND isn’t some skinny twig, but a girl with some muscle on her!

            Looking forward to this series.

            Entire article can be read here. http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/07/21/legend-of-korra-the-creators-of-avatar-the-last-airbender-on-the-new-spinoff/

            • Casey says

              This is kind of a tangent, but I’m oddly happy/proud(?) of the fact that on cartoon/anime/hobbyist/etc. dude-bro image boards I frequent where men who call women bitches un-ironically/in place of the words “woman/girl/female” are stoked/excited about Legend of Korra.

        • says

          I realize this question was not targeted about me, but I thought I would provide you with some additional information (hope you don’t mind).

          I have 4 kids, and while all watch TV to some extent, my 6-year old (girl) and 9-year old (boy) are the primary consumers of media. Interestingly enough, they tend to like the EXACT SAME STUFF (with minor exceptions…she doesn’t care as much for vintage Transformers, he isn’t really into My Little Pony). But they both love:

          –Avatar TLA. Their favorite show, hands down. I haven’t told them about Korra yet. :)
          –Pokemon.
          –The Iron Giant…seriously, this movie made my son cry at the end.
          –Shrek (at least the first 2…3 was less good).
          –Ponyo. We’ve tried them on other Miyazaki (Howl’s Moving Castle, My Neighbor Totoro), and they were lukewarm. Kiki’s Delivery Service was pretty well received. I’ll let them watch Mononoke when they get a little older.
          –Pixar. Just about all of it, but they especially like The Incredibles.
          –Old school disney/WB cartoons…they especially love Tom & Jerry, of all things.
          –Kim Possible. We actually haven’t been watching this lately, but for a while it was a staple.
          –Olivia.
          –Adventure Time with Finn & Jake. A lot of the gags go over their heads (especially the past-the-radar stuff), but the straight-up zanyness really appeals to them.
          –Shows like Mythbusters and How It’s Made.

          They’re not real keen on Don Bluth…my son used to love “Banjo the Woodpile Cat” when he was 3-4, and they’ve watched Secret of NIMH (but weren’t really crazy about it).

          My son loves classic 80’s-90’s cartoons…he has the first season of “Silverhawks” on DVD, watches the old “Transformers” on TV, and I’ve shown him “Thundercats” and “Pirates of Dark Water” on youtube. I’m going to try and find some old “He-Man”…I think he’ll go ape.

          • The Other Anne says

            I LOVE PIRATES OF DARK WATER. Well, I did. I tried rewatching it in the last few years and couldn’t, but my memories of it are awesome XD.

            Of Don Bluth’s I usually think of The Land Before Time, An American Tail, All Dogs Go To Heaven and Titan A.E., though I do own NIMH. Bluth is…definitely a YMMV kinda director, but I always loved his animation over Disney’s.

            The Iron Giant FTW! I always wanted a sequel.

            As for Miyazaki, when they’re older I’d also recommend trying them on Nausicaa. It’s an interesting one, and a lot like Mononoke in a lot of ways. Have they seen Spirited Away?

            As far as Shrek and PIXAR goes have you noticed whether they have a preference for that kind of 3D animation over hand-drawn animation? (And have they seen Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs and How To Train Your Dragon? How about Dinosaur? Hah, I just love dinosaurs so I feel like everyone should, but many do not…)

            Kim Possible was probably my favorite show on TV…when I was 18 XD. It’s a good one.

            This is awesome. I love this stuff. Have you shown your son “Reboot”? I loved that one too, but the animation by todays standards is awful. I was also a huge fan of Tranformers: Beast Wars the cartoon in the 90’s. The cheetah one was my favorite. I can’t remember any of their names anymore, except I think optimus was a gorilla and all the decepticons were the coolest because they were dinosaurs.

            • says

              Re: Dark Water. I KNOW, RIGHT? To be honest, it started to go downhill…I think they switched animators (maybe in the second season?). That was probably my favorite TV show…when I was like, 13. :)

              I personally loved NIMH (even though the book was better), but I’ve always been kinda “meh” on Bluth’s stuff.

              Miyazaki is very hit-or-miss for me. I tried watching Nausicaa, but couldn’t get into it (the manga was better, though). Likewise, I’ve seen “Spirited Away” but did not enjoy it. Loved “Castle in the Sky”, though (along with the ones I mentioned).

              I can’t honestly say if they prefer CGI to hand-drawn or not…because since our VCR broke, we can’t watch the classic disney stuff we have (I don’t have most of those on DVD), so they’ve been going with the Pixar/Dreamworks stuff.
              (Did see Train your Dragon, btw…awesome, awesome movie. I cried.)

              I thought Kim Possible was totally sweet when it first came out. I hear the series went downhill after a couple of movies, though (where they started switching the focus to Ron, of all things…WTF?).

              Have not shown him Reboot (I never got into that). We’ve tried watching classic G.I. Joe, but honestly, even my nostalgia filter can’t make that good for me anymore. I think I could try some stuff like Gargoyles, TMNT…hell, I can’t remember what shows were good.

              Yeah, he’d probably love Beast Wars. :)

              • The Other Anne says

                I knew I was forgetting one! And one of my top favorites. Castle in the Sky. I should’ve remembered that–wrote my thesis comparing the girls in Miyazaki’s films to those of “the Disney Renaissance.”

                OMG SHOW HIM GARGOYLES. LOVED that show. :D

                • Dani says

                  I freaking LOVE Gargoyles! (I loved it even more after I read Macbeth :D) A while back, I stumbled onto late-night reruns of the show and about bounced off the walls in excitement!

                  Your thesis sounds awesome. Miyazaki’s treatment of his female characters versus Disney’s treatment of theirs is one of the things I noticed immediately when comparing their movies.

              • Shaun says

                I really liked Gargoyles but I haven’t seen it as an adult to analyze it. Reboot I never got into, but my best friend insists it makes more sense if you understand computers (I certainly didn’t at 10).

                Despite some… problematic tropes, Captain Planet was always my favorite cartoon and it’s fucking awesome.

            • Patrick McGraw says

              Pirates of Darkwater underwent a fair amount of dumbing-down when ABC picked it up for a full series after the original miniseries ((just titled “Darkwater”) aired on Fox. They turned Tula from an a morally-gray fighter into Magic LifePowerGirl, turned Niddler from complex character into the Small Annoying Creature (and ditched Roddy McDowell using his own voice for Frank Welker doing an annoying voice), and turned villains Bloth and Konk into buffoons.

              Yes, I’m still bitter.

              • says

                Y’know, you’re absolutely right…I hadn’t realized how much of my nostalgia-love was tied up in the first 5 eps. I think I only actually saw 2 other episodes (Panacea and The Collection)…oh, plus the one with the baby leviathan which completely sucked.

                Besides the flaws you mention, there’s simply the fact that they lost some (most?) of the “gritty” edge that the original miniseries seemed to have. I mean, the whole premise depends on that feel.

          • Chai Latte says

            ZOMG Secret of NIMH is my favoritest movie EVER. Justin was my very first cartoon crush! XD Can’t wait till my niece is old enough to watch it.

            • says

              “Justin was my very first cartoon crush! XD ”

              ZOMG you too?!?! It’s a wonder I’m not a furry. He was hott, and THAT VOICE! *swoon*

              (Though Justin wasn’t my FIRST. That honor goes to Optimus Prime. :) )

              • Chai Latte says

                *glomps* Justin is made of pure awesome. How could you not love him to bits?

                And Optimus Prime is cool, also!

          • says

            “Ponyo, Ponyo, little chicken of the sea…” is sung constantly around here. After a few days when I think they’ve forgotten it, they bring it up again.

          • Patrick McGraw says

            ‘He-Man and the Masters of the Universe” should all be available on DVD, along with “She-Ra Princess of Power” (which was overall a better show). Another good 80’s Filmation series was Bravestarr (don’t know if it got a DVD release).

            Seconding the recommendation for Gargoyles.

            I would strongly recommend Batman: The Animated Series (1991-1994 or so), and the subsequent shows in the DC animated universe produced by Bruce Timm: Superman: The Animated Series, Batman Beyond, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited. The shows deal with some mature themes, and Justice League/JLU aren’t very child-friendly, so you may want to wait on those. But the first few DVD volumes of Batman should be fine.

                • Shaun says

                  Yes, that was awesome. She also used some sort of lizard once in order to get infra-red vision, but I particularly liked the scene where she did the elephant and then stomped *through* a truck to tackle Grundy (I think?).

                  None of that trumps how she took out the baddie in Meltzer’s JLA reboot.

    • says

      Apparently the issue with Mars Needs Moms was brought up back when it was still a picture book, and vigorously defended by the author.

      From Mickle’s comment back in 2007:

      He argued that, firstly, children’s books today are too sanitized and everyone’s just shocked that he had a mom die because everyone’s worried about the little kiddies. To which I’m all “huh? Haven’t read a whole lot of kid’s lit, have you?” (And later, after having read the book – “Dude, she doesn’t even actually die. wtf.”)

      Oh, wait, that was second. Firstly he all but called such reviewers feminazi’s.

      • Alara Rogers says

        The thing that struck me about the lists is that the majority of men I know do the things on the “women hate this stuff” list, and most women don’t. But I’ve never known a woman who does the things on the “men hate this stuff” list. I’ve never known a man to do them, either.

        People who don’t give their opinion about where to eat either really don’t care, or feel uncomfortable stating an opinion. In either case, they don’t suddenly make a case of not liking the food they refused to pick out. People don’t take your book and then throw it away. (I mean, I’m sure somebody does, but it’s not common.) People don’t eat all of your food if they asked to share. So either these are not universal behaviors, but very specific behavior of a particular narcissistic ass, which this idiot is projecting onto all women… or he’s exaggerating normal behavior for amusing effect, like the one time his girlfriend actually lost his book becomes “women always lose your book” and his girlfriend taking a third of his dessert becomes she ate it all.

        As for his “oh the poor thing” rant… while that one strikes me as realistic, and maybe even occurs in a gendered way fairly often, it’s not actually admirable that you can’t empathize with animals, dude. I mean, actually, if you had any comprehension of animal psychology, you’d know your girlfriend is *right*. The dog *does* want to go home with you. The fact that you know this would result in the dog pooping inappropriately doesn’t mean she’s wrong in her interpretation of the dog’s desires. It means you’re centering the world around your own opinion, so a dog doesn’t desire a loving family, it desires to irritate you personally.

        (also, “not changing the radio station”… really? she was supposed to change it back for you? do you change your boring-ass talk radio to her pop station for her? if it’s both your car, and you both have the right to drive it, then maybe you should recognize that she has as much right to listen to her station as you do.)

        But the “stuff men do”… insult women’s tastes, cherry pick favorite chores, make a huge deal of the chores he does do, be completely thoughtless of the person who cleans up, and try to apply his progressive beliefs such that she should sacrifice but not him… oh, I totally know men who do these things. Whereas I know no actual women who do. (Girls, yes, as in 12 year olds.)

        So actually, my opinion is the opposite of many people’s here. It doesn’t look to me as if the man’s experience is “general” and therefore we’re supposed to sympathize, whereas the woman’s experience is all about cleaning and therefore no fun. It looks to me as if the man is either exaggerating or referring to one particular, unusual jerk, and the woman is talking about things that in real life, men actually *do* to women. And many of the man’s “things he hates” actually strike me as things he only feels he has the right to rant about because he has a massive sense of entitlement — like the fact that he plainly feels his girlfriend ought to change the channel back to his favorite, and the volume back to his preference, rather than he takes a minute to fix his preferences in the morning, even though there’s no evidence from his rant that it’s his personal car or that he puts the channels back for her.

        • says

          It looks to me as if the man is either exaggerating or referring to one particular, unusual jerk

          Interesting point. Maybe the list would have been improved if they’d had multiple authors for each list? But then again, they’d probably try to turn that into some sort of scientific survey. “Our survey shows these are the top ten things all men hate about women!” and then you find out the survey pool was ten middle-aged White guys who all work for the same company :P

        • says

          It doesn’t look to me as if the man’s experience is “general” and therefore we’re supposed to sympathize, whereas the woman’s experience is all about cleaning and therefore no fun. It looks to me as if the man is either exaggerating or referring to one particular, unusual jerk,

          But you’re not supposed to think it through critically – most people won’t. Most people accept stereotypes, and in stereotype land, narcissism is a female trait. We have forums full of men online complaining about how spoiled women are, how easy women’s lives are, how easy it is for us to just find hubbies to take care of our needs while we sip mint juleps on the veranda, etc. Clearly, as evidenced by the link, a lot of women – even supposed feminists – manage to fall for this shit and buy into it whole heartedly. Poor little menz!

          So while your assessment of what the author has done seems bang-on, he’s not the first one who did it. These stereotypes about women doing bizarre passive-aggressive, narcissistic things (and then complaining about ever-patient men being insensitive, jeez!) are prevalent. Check out, oh, 99% of the “chick flick” genre. I can’t tell you how many women I hear laughing about these movies and saying, “It’s so true! We all do these things!” I’m not even sure if it’s true, or if they just think those movies are something they’re supposed to conform to – in words if not in deeds.

          I think that’s the target audience of these lists, and the desired effect is to reinforce the idea that women are neurotic messes who should be grateful men will put up with them at all. And, oh, all they have to do to garner this fabulous male benevolence? Put up with some bad housework behavior. What a bargain! /sarcasm

  2. Elee says

    Well, according to the MailOnline I clearly must be a man. What a surprise! Why is it that whenever I see something about what men think of women on topic X or vice versa, I must inevitably prepare myself for loads of unfunny and/or rage-inducing shit?

    And Metafilter-story made me cry a little. But also reminded me of another one, about a russian girl and women trafficers, I believe it was on Metafilter, too? Such an effective and fast response from online communities gives me hope for humanity.

    • Dani says

      So…apparently I’m a man, too?

      This isn’t the first time I’ve read a “men are this, women are that” list, and I almost always relate more to the “male” list, but this one is probably one of the most absurd ones.

      • Maria says

        Not only are you a man… but you’re also a very annoying one. That’s what I learn from these things!

      • says

        I almost always relate more to the “male” list

        Am I the only one who thinks these lists are designed to elicit that response from women? They shame us for being women because OMG we totally get why we’d be annoyed at such behavior, but the fact that we’ve been around MEN who behave exactly those ways becomes slippery for the mind to hold onto because it’s being framed as “Women, this is why you can’t have nice things.”

        • Attackfish says

          because it’s being framed as “Women, this is why you can’t have nice things.”

          This.

          On the other hand, I read through the “what women found annoying” and went “but seriously, that means an hour more work for her, and would have taken you five minutes” for some, and was um, what? on others until I realized that whole list was all about how selfish and unpleasable us ladyfolk are, and real complaints were thrown in there simply to devalue them.

        • Dani says

          “Am I the only one who thinks these lists are designed to elicit that response from women?”

          No, I think the same way. There’s always some sort of (not so) subtle “well, at least I’m not like THAT” message in reference to the female list. No matter what the subject of these lists, whether that be “Annoying things about men/women” or “Typical characteristics of men/women”, the characteristics typically given to the man are usually held in greater esteem by society. Like, in the Daily Mail article, a man may leave wet towels everywhere, but AT LEAST he takes books to read on a long flight! @_@

        • says

          I didn’t identify with the man in that list; I wondered why he was so worthless as to date a woman who treated him like crap. If someone steals my desert or my book I’ll take it right back and tell them to cut it out. I don’t let it go and then whine about it later. The woman had a list of pet peeves I could see myself blowing off steam about without taking it seriously.

          Am I the only one who thinks these lists are designed to elicit that response from women?

          I’m not sure if they’re all designed that way, although some probably are. But I think many of them are framed so that the male side is the more universal/major side, the female the more specialized/minor side. In this particular list, everyone can identify with putting up with idiots who steal from you or break things and expect you to fix them. But not everyone is bothered by people who don’t pick up after themselves or prefer different TV shows.

          The traits in the list aren’t gendered but are falsely presented as if they are. Some men break shit all the time – just ask my mom about the garbage grinder her (now ex) husband took apart and left covering the dinner table for two days. Some women don’t pick up after themselves – my sister cannot figure out how a laundry basket works to save her life.

          Just in general I don’t find male/female jokes very funny. The only one I really like is when the wife shops, prepares the meat, tosses the salad, sets the table, serves the food, clears the table and does the dishes. The husband throws the meat on the grill for a few minutes, turns it over, and then asks his wife how she liked her night off. And that’s more about society’s perceptions of the value of male vs. female labor than it is about how men are innately stupid.

          • M.C. says

            You know how it is when you get those manly urges and you just gotta kill somethin’… fix things, cook outdoors… [/Mulan]

          • Elee says

            “my sister cannot figure out how a laundry basket works to save her life.”
            I have three! laundry baskets and my floor is still covered in things. I’m a slob. And my male collegue now knows better than to steal my dessert. It was fun to watch how fast he let go of it after he heard me literally growl. :-)

            What also annoyed me, was that the things, that supposedly piss women off about men are nearly all about basic household cleanliness, while the items on the men’s list are mostly about down time, again perpetuating the stereotype that all women care about is cleaning and are humorless.

            • says

              Right. They’re all variations on the same theme and could easily have been gotten down to one or two points along the lines of “pick up after your damn self, I’m not a maid”. But then they would have had to actually think to come up with more points. ;)

  3. Casey says

    That Fat, Ugly or Slutty site is GREAT! The comments section leaves a bit to be desired, though…check out these “wonderful” comments in response to one ZombieDODT saying “GO IN THE KITCHEN AND STOP GAMING IT’S FOR MEN NOT FOR PUSSIES”:
    Joey Shabadoo: It makes me sad that a moron like this is more likely to have a girlfriend than some shy, introverted, nice guy.
    Tristan Murphy: It makes me even more sad that some poor girl is more likely to end up with a boyfriend like this, since all the nice guys are busy being shy and introverted.

    OH NOEZ THE POOR NICE GUYS(tm)…implying the supposed “nice guys” AREN’T the internet tough guys telling women to go back to the kitchen on XboxLive ‘cuz they’re bitter over not getting laid. :S

    • Chai Latte says

      Hang on, let me get out THE WORLD’S TINIEST VIOLIN for these yahoos.

      I mean, REALLY? That guy who said ‘get back in the kitchen’ is probably a Nice Guy(TM) also.

      • Casey says

        Yeah, that’s what I was saying…The comment section REALLY sucks there, even if the site itself is doing pretty good work, there’s too many trolls saying “HAY IT’S NOT A BIG DEAL GUYS SAY THIS STUFF TO EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME” and too many self-flogging Nice Guys saying stuff like “I WOULD NEVER DEIGN TO SAY SUCH THINGS TO A WOMAN THESE IDIOTS MAKE ME ASHAMED OF MY CHROMOSOMES”, like…simmer down, y’know? >_>V

        There’s also trans-phobia, too. >_<

      • says

        Ha, there was a bit of that in the DailyFAIL article too. “OH BOO HOO, women lie when they say they prefer a sense of humor! Otherwise I’d be rollin’ in bitchez!”

        When will they get it thru their heads that most *people* like senses of humor, but if you are a misogynist, tiny-violin-playing Nice Guy, it won’t matter how funny you are. That shit’s a turnoff.

        (Men like senses of humor in women, too, if they stop buying that whole sexist line of crap about how women aren’t funny. Maybe that’s why all these Funny Nice Guys can’t get a girlfriend. They won’t let HER be funny too.)

        • Rutee says

          I’m now retroactively glad I’ve never looked at the comments on Fat Ugly or Slutty. It’s so nice when an attempt to overthrow misogyny co-opted by…. more misogyny.

          • The Other Anne says

            Ditto. Though, after the first few days reading it I got too depressed about it and went away. made me glad I never got into MMORPGs and other online games.

        • Chai Latte says

          Also they never draw a line between the fact that they refer to women as bitches to the reluctance of said women to date them. GEE, I WONDER WHY. LOL.

        • Patrick McGraw says

          (Men like senses of humor in women, too, if they stop buying that whole sexist line of crap about how women aren’t funny. Maybe that’s why all these Funny Nice Guys can’t get a girlfriend. They won’t let HER be funny too.)

          Quite. If I ever try internet dating again, I should mention that when I say I like a sense of humor, I mean someone who is funny. Whether she also thinks I am funny is up to her.

  4. Casey says

    OH DEAR, A DOUBLE POST
    The Last Guardian article was good, although the comments reek too much of “you can see the splinter in someone else’s eye easier than the log in your own” in regards to Japanese sexism. :|

  5. Chai Latte says

    I really only liked one animated offering this year–“Megamind” was surprisingly funny and insightful. I wish it had more female characters, though–I mean, in this day and age, why the hell not? (Oh right, girls don’t buy tickets! *coughBULLSHITcough*)

    I will admit to liking Roxanne quite a bit, though. Great casting there–Tina Fey is superb. She’s not a ‘girl’, she’s a grown woman, and her focus isn’t on falling in love–it’s in making sure the whole damn city isn’t flattened.

    However, I did appreciate the look into what makes a superhero vs. a villain. The movie even (whether intentionally or not) made a great point on Nice Guy-ism with the character of Tighten–and what happens when an entitled asshat like him gets superpowers. The best part is that Megamind himself is never presented as the Jock Asshole OR the Shy Intelligent Guy Who Deserves The Girl More, which is a trap many superhero movies (SPIDER MAN) fall into ALL THE FREAKING TIME.

    • The Other Anne says

      What bothered me about Megamind is a trope I see quite a bit in superhero type narratives–the person we root for, in this case Megamind, is the one who creates all the problems to begin with. I mean, it’s hard for me to feel very happy for him at the end with the whole city celebrating him and his heroics when he’s the guy that caused the need for heroics. I also never enjoy the “I’ll pretend I’m somebody else and get this girl to fall in love with me and then when she finds out I’m not this person she’ll still love me because on the inside I’m good.” Only, on the inside they’re still liars and manipulators, so….

      But, I did laugh at moments in the movie, and I did like the switch up of the Superman origin story. I also really liked Roxanne. I kind of wish the movie was just about HER. But, well, I guess then it wouldn’t be interesting or whatever?

  6. Lika says

    The article about the principal singling out black students for reprimand made my blood boil. The author said everything I wanted to say about assigning poor marks to race and gender, and not looking at individual test scores. The fact that he made it public for the whole story by calling them over the bloody intercom is unbelievable.

    It also reminds me of this post I recently read on Feminist with Disability. The author talked about the intersection of race and intelligence in it. I think standardized testing is bullshit anyways (the skill I needed for my current job I learned at my place of employment so my school test scores means crap) and using marks as a basis to reprimand anyone pisses me, let alone to humiliate a group of people as a whole.

    • says

      The fact that he was even looking for a racial breakdown on the scores rather than just focusing on ALL the kids who scored low is what blows me away. It indicates he (consciously or not) looks to race to provide scapegoats. It’s not so much “How can I motivate this minority group?” as it is, “black boys are screwing me over.”

      Besides, if there is a problem causing black boys in his school not to excel on tests, that suggests his school is failing black boys somehow, so the school entirely deserves whatever low marks it’s getting for those test results. Maybe if instead of humiliating them, he, you know, like, tried to educate them? I dunno, it’s just a thought!

      Even back in the 80s, when Duke was giving out PSATs to us, they included a brochure with your scores saying not to read too much into the fact that girls as a group score lower than boys in math, because there were several factors causing that, none of which were that girls lacked ability. That baffled me, so I ignored their advice and judged myself alongside the guys. I had performed at the high end of the scores for girls and around average for boys, but I still came away thinking math wasn’t my thing.

      What Duke should have explained – and what any REAL motivational speech for any minority or disenfranchised group would explain – is this sort of thing:

      –The very style of the PSAT gives an advantage to kids who are quicker to take risks by guessing answers (rather than leaving blank) when they don’t know and moving on to what they DO know. Apparently, girls are powerfully socialized to agonize endlessly over each question they don’t know the answer to. (I had gotten a thorough explanation from a teacher of why it was essential to guess and move on quickly if I didn’t know an answer, so I did, so I scored high.)
      –The math questions focused (back then, at least) too much on spatial geometry. Boys consistently score higher on that, possibly for biological reasons (nothing has been proven, and personally I’m not impressed with the “evidence”), or maybe for social reasons (the sort of sports they’re encouraged to be in, for example).

      That sort of thing. We KNOW tests are biased toward the white middle class experience, just like TV and movies. Giving a minority group tips on how to overcome that, and encouraging them not to blame themselves for an unfair situation – that might have been an okay reason to single a group out. But that’s not at all where this principal was coming from.

      • Shaun says

        Better yet, have that discussion in front of everyone so the white middle-class boys can hear how the test is favoring them. They don’t have to agree but at least they’ll have some exposure to the idea.

      • Patrick McGraw says

        A few months ago, there was a George F. Will column (yes, I know) in Newsweek that basically made the following argument: America’s declining academic performance is due to Brown Vs. Board of Education, because desegregation resulted in black kids bringing everyone else down to their level.

        About the spatial reasoning thing: I always did extremely well with spatial reasoning. I don’t know if this is genetic aptitude (lots of engineers in my family), playing with Lego bricks since I was old enough to put them together, or what.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. You can also subscribe without commenting.