Links of Great Interest: CODE RED!

I killed someone, but it’s okay because they’re old.

Hey, I’m gonna kidnap your lesbian daughter on the Day of Silence, threaten to throw her off a cliff, and tell her if she says anything I’ll hurt her, but FYI it’s not a hate crime.

Christopher Rice (I hate that people keep calling him Anne Rice’s son, he’s actually a pretty awesome writer in his own right) talks about why detective novelists suck at women characters.

Uh, why does my male partner need an iPhone app to monitor my periods???

More on this Neil Gaiman FAIL crap.

Hmmmmm. Why ARE women so hesitant to say they’re feminists?

For American high school students, remembering the nation is engaged in a project of the military industrial complex is an act based around class and race privilege. By this I mean ignorance can be a sign of privilege.

Utah sez: Your doctor is not obligated to give you all the facts about your pregnancy.

BLAST FROM THE PAST –> A QUOTE FROM a 1990 pamphlet distributed by Queers in NYC. An army of lovers cannot lose!

Gendergoggles reviews Red String and Penny and Aggie. I’ve interviewed both T Campbell from P&A and Gina Biggs from Red String.

Racist guy says license plate isn’t racist.

Sexist musical artist says women who wear miniskirts deserve what they get.

From SunlessNick: “They raped her as she was dying.”

Blast from the Past: I bet you forgot about the awesome website,, which explores the changes women’s bodies undergo after pregnancy.

Circlet Press is looking for submissions.

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  1. Ray says

    As someone who has dealt with some hormone/regularity issues, I wouldn’t mind an app to help me track my own periods. But that thing is crap.

    • Maria says

      Haha probably… I’ve been thinking a lot about Orson Scott Card and Brandon Sanderson lately, and they work out of Utah.

  2. Scarlett says

    Re: the ‘I’m not a feminist’ thing. In a women’s studies unit I did at uni, the professor got us to divide ourselves into those of us who considered ourselves feminist and those of us who didn’t. I was in the first group, and we were maybe 20% of the class. A freaking WOMENS STUIDIES class at UNIVERSITY (and what’s the closest WA has to a liberal arts uni, too) and EIGHTY PERCENT of the women there (it was all women, though apparantly there were a few male extrnal students) didn’t identify with being feminists. The gist of their argument was ‘but we don’t want to be lumped in with those hairy-legged, man-hating lesbians’. It was unbelievably disheartening that in 2005, in a university degree designed to study the inequalities of women, EIGHTY PERCENT of women still didn’t consider themselves as feminists, and for such ignorant reasons.

  3. says

    Scarlett, I experienced the same thing in a seminar on Women’s Social Policies – three guys there, and still not a majority of feminists. And when talking about the “glass ceiling”, most of the arguments were along the “women don’t want a career, they want children” line – in a fricking university seminar. I couldn’t believe that *I* had to argue the feminist’s side there, though the teacher seemed glad someone did.

    As an aside: What did you think about boobquake? I think OliviaBenson makes a good point.

    • Maria says

      There’s a lot about Boobquake I didn’t like. Next week, I’ll put up a couple of links detailing why. 😛

  4. says

    The backlash of women refusing to identify as feminists even when they agree with every core principle of the movement boils down to: fear of upsetting The Man. Individual women may experience it as “But I like dating men and men don’t date feminists” or “I’ll lose my job if they think I’m a feminist” but at the end of the day, it’s always what men prefer, and the perception men don’t like feminists.

    Sounds like a clear, huge victory for the anti-feminists to me. Short of us all being herded into a pit and shot to death, what more could the anti-feminists long for?

  5. Scarlett says

    I always thopught the I’m-not-a-feminist-but people wanted the best of both worlds; the things that have been gained through feminism without the perceived stereotypes and resentment. I was always cynical enough to expect that of people. But the fact women who had ponied up money to study Womens Studies at a liberal-arts university STILL didn’t consider themselves feminists… I think I kissed goodbye another chunk of my niavete that day :(

  6. Elee says

    I have considered myself not-a-feminist-but until a couple years ago, but at least I reasoned it that I couldn’t be one because I never bothered to read something about it. Sure, I knew it had something to do with voting rights and gender equality but it was to vague to consider myself fully informed. On a similar note: this weekend somehow I stumbled into discussion on shaving legs and on the slightest suggestion that necessity to shave legs might be a matter of societal expectations a friend of mine was stonewalling like whoa. Of course the only reason a woman would do it is because it makes her feel pretty and is done strictly voluntarily. D: Having had one such trainwreck of a discussion I can understand why so many women don’t want to be labeled as feminists. F-Word didn’t even fall that day, I can only imagine the kind of venomous looks I would have gotten had I talked about feminism. Never thought that I couldn’t talk to my friends about what goes on in my mind, though I hope they just need an acclimatization period.

  7. says

    Scarlett, I think that’s accurate.

    Elee, your reason makes sense to me. I do think there are valid intellectual reasons for not calling oneself a feminist. But the reason you’re supposing for others – that they’d get venemous looks for bringing it up – gets no sympathy from me. We have to speak up, or nothing will ever change.

  8. Elee says

    That is why I am trying to ignite discussion between my friends. We’ve gone too long with trying to get along with each other instead of discussing what we really expect of life and why we are so unsatisfied with ourselves right now. It is too easy to just bobble one’s head and try to pacify people who long ago have lost common ground (we are friends since high school). Talking would help us to recover it once again. But if I am going to break out the -isms, I want to do it at a right time, because I don’t want our conversation to derail into eye-rolling or name-calling. I am testing myself as much as my friends, I might not find the right words to express what I mean and they might feel offended by my ideas, it wouldn’t help to reinforce the stereotype of “those crazy man-hating feminists”.

  9. says

    We’ve gone too long with trying to get along with each other instead of discussing what we really expect of life and why we are so unsatisfied with ourselves right now.

    I’ve been reading a book about how that’s just what girls are socialized to do in the US (dunno about your country). We aren’t supposed to ever have conflict in relationships, so we aren’t taught ways to argue, whereas boys learn ways to “fight and make up” with other boys from early childhood. So when we try to engage in healthy debates/conflicts with female friends, we risk losing the whole relationship – since girls, not knowing a way to negotiate conflict, tend to just kill the whole relationship instead.

    Good luck finding the words and timing. I’ve lost more than a few female friends myself by not getting it right, and while I console myself “someone who won’t weather a little fight to maintain the relationship with you isn’t a real friend”, I know part of the problem is how we’re socialized, and who knows how good a friend some of those women might have been if only we’d all learned better conflict negotiation skills.

  10. says

    It’s really interesting to me how similar this discussion is to other subsets of humanity. Especially Jennifer here:

    “We have to speak up, or nothing will ever change.” When speaking up means identifying yourself as a feminist, at least.

    I’ve seen the same discussion regarding my best friend, who is at least somewhat of an activist and often gets told why she’s “forcing her sexuality on others” when she identifies herself as a lesbian. Or among the bdsm community. Or as a skeptic and an atheist. And, of course, when I call myself a feminist in a university seminar and get laughed at by most of the students. “can’t you just keep quiet?”

    Sure I can, but what would change then?

  11. says

    YES! If you speak up for a paradigm that’s not the dominant one, it’s perceived as MUCH MUCH LOUDER than the most obnoxious thing someone speaking for the dominant paradigm could ever say. “I’m a feminist” is much more disruptive to typical social discourse than “Well, as a Christian, I just don’t see how Jews can get to heaven” even though one person is just saying “I think women are worthwhile” and the other is condemning people to eternal hell.

    It reminds me of studies which prove over and over that men talk more than women, despite the stereotype of women rattling on and on. Many people perceive women as talking more simply because we’re not perceived as having all the rights to speak that men have.

    Wow… I wonder how much that ties into the film industry’s advice against passing the Bechdel test?

    And now I’ve got the song “Voices Carry” going through my mind.

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