Links of Great Interest: LOLLERSKATES HARRY POTTER

Signal Boost: From Anonymous:

Someone out there is trying to get her RPG project funded. It’s all described at the kickstarter page: This hobby isn’t very inclusive and makes no effort to be so. Anyone who dares to mention this within tabletop circles encounters a shitstorm like this one.

From Gabbie Jenchol:

The following link is about a proposed sitcom done by the ABC (our PBS) about Jullia Gillard and her partner Tim Mathieson. While I don’t object to the idea, per se, I DO object to the fact that no OTHER (male) Prime Minister has been considered such fair game.

Following is an article about this sitcom about Gillard being ‘ugly’ and ‘disrespectful’ and that no-one would have done such a thing about John Howard, Robert Menzies etc. Though I suppose it also proves that the government has no say in what public broadcasting does. Silver lining, anyone?

From CloudTigress:

Something I found that I thought might be of use for the Links of Great Interest column.

An article from the Indianapolis (Indiana) Star (Sunday ed.) talking about some of the factors that lead to one missing persons case going national/global in media coverage (aka the current Lauren Spierer case) while others never get covered beyond a report to the police. It points out things like lower-income people not knowing enough about social networking sites (usually due to their having limited access to computers in general) to use them effectively in their searches, or how to contact the media and ”present” their stories to make the media people sit up and take interest in them. (This is in addition to the usual classism/racism/privilege biases society still has running in the background.)

While I’m not sure how long that article will stay in the free area of the site (possibly not past 7/23-7/24), there are two groups mentioned in the article that should also have their links separated out from the article. The first is this one:

IN Hope – it’s mostly a collection of links for families who are suddenly facing the disappearance of one of their own and need some help in where/how to start their searches and get media coverage of same.

The second is this one:

Peas in Their Pods. Their primary focus is finding missing Black children and adults, though their site also contains parenting tips that parents of any race would find useful for helping raise their kids to not be victims of abuse.

Hopefully these are of interest/use to you.

T Campbell to take over the writing of Magick Chicks

From MC:

Comic-Con had a roundtable with Sarah Michelle Gellar, Jennifer Morrison, Britt Robertson, Yvonne Strahovski, Maggie Q and Anna Torv. They talk about women in film/tv in general and their respective shows in particular.

And here’s a youtube series about tv tropes vs women:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqJUxqkcnKA

Is sex passe?

UConn bows to conservative forces and revokes admission of black student.

The irksome thing gay people do…

Chris Brown will be in a misogynistic romantic comedy. Not really sure why this is news.

Comments

  1. Anonymous says

    A postscript to the RPG matter: more threads have been posted on that forum to discuss many of the issues brought up in the one linked above. A lot of women tabletoppers are coming forward with their stories, with not as much backlash as I had expected/feared.
    It was mentioned somewhere on there that RPGnet is one of the more female-friendly forums in the hobby.

  2. says

    Thank you so much for linking to Heartbreak & Heroines! I admit I was dubious about the “heartbreak” part but in the FAQ she says any type of tragedy would count, including Batman’s origin story. I will definitely be buying a copy. Honestly, what sold me is the inclusion of “how to GM” and “how to roleplay”. I’ve been trying to get into tabletop gaming for a while. It’s a lot harder than some people seem to think. I joined a D&D group in college, but some of the men there were always deriding me and my roommate as “newbies” (had nothing to do with the fact we were 2 of the 3 women there, no, of course not) and I didn’t learn much. I downloaded a free GURPS sampler and GMed a game with my siblings, but it didn’t go far due to my inexperience. So hopefully H&H will go well for me. :)

    As for the shitstorm, there are plenty of idiots there (“there weren’t any Black clerics in our world until 100 years ago, so putting them in an unrelated fantasy world is going to silly lengths!”) but at least as far as I read, there seemed to be a good ratio of people putting them in their place (“actually, Blacks have been imams since the 8th or 9th century”).

    Also, loved the Pope Zypgx link. I’m guessing it’s about the ridicule surrounding Michelle Bachman’s husband, which bothers me for all the reasons mentioned and more. Seriously, it is possible to hate queers and not be queer. My grandmother manages it every time she says, “Well, I just think that marriage is between a man and a woman. I just don’t think the gays can have that level of intimacy. That’s just my opinion.” I assure you, my grandma’s straight as they come. :(

  3. SunlessNick says

    I wish I’d thought about passing the Heartbreak and Heroines thread over here.

    “there weren’t any Black clerics in our world until 100 years ago, so putting them in an unrelated fantasy world is going to silly lengths!”

    Among lots and lots of other bullshit. Which also derailed (and caused the closure of) a second thread opened by the game’s writer to answer questions about it, together with a few general threads that were opened about sexism in gaming (I think only one is still open). Festering.

    At least she got her funding.

  4. The Other Anne says

    Hm. Haven’t read the article to go with it yet, but I clicked on the ComicCon women-in-TV link and, well, seriously? Five blond white women and one who is neither blond nor white, all with the same hairstyle? They couldn’t even find diversity of appearance amongst white women? Women in TV are THAT monolithic in appearance and race? I mean, I love each of those actresses, but I am having a hard time getting over that image. Is that weird?

  5. The Other Anne says

    The Other Anne,

    In other news, I still really enjoyed reading it. It’s great to hear about how some women go about making shows, and some of these women, such as Maggie Q, seem really aware of everything. Which reminds me that I need to go finish watching the first season of Nikita.

  6. Patrick McGraw says

    As a Troper, I really like the “Tropes vs. Women” videos. I hope to see the series continue for some time.

    “Heartbreak & Heroines” sounds interesting, and I will contribute enough to get a copy of the book. I’ll likely never run it*, but the designer sounds like she has some very interesting and useful ideas about developing character motivation in RPGs, and having characters develop over the course of a campaign. And I’m always interested in getting more viewpoints on that to avoid letting games become stale.

    And the responses… I was only able to get through ten pages of sexist bull on that thread before calling it quits.

    *Mostly because I have a huge list of games I want to run, and my group only plays once a week, alternating between campaigns. I’m currently preparing a Warhammer Fantasy game using D&D 3.5 that emphasizes the Warhammer World as a horror setting rather than just an action setting.

  7. Casey says

    I dropped out of that long H&H thread after reading this (and I’m sure it’s not the worst thing that’s to be found)

    : It seems to be this ham-fisted ideal that roleplaying is some kind of white, heterosexual boy’s club, with all roleplaying games up till today trying to keep out people of colour, homosexuals, transexuals, etc. out of gaming.

    Except that it pretty much IS a white, heterosexual boy’s club, so HURRRRRRRP YOU FUCKED UP.

  8. Casey says

    Sylvia Sybil: Seriously, it is possible to hate queers and not be queer. My grandmother manages it every time she says, “Well, I just think that marriage is between a man and a woman. I just don’t think the gays can have that level of intimacy. That’s just my opinion.” I assure you, my grandma’s straight as they come. :(

    Yup, I think I read a good Cracked article about how most of those outspoken homophobes aren’t closeted, they’re just jerks.
    And I’ve seen/heard/read A-PLENTY of straight male dudebros espouse the whole “GAYS ARE INCAPABLE OF GENUINE ROMANTIC LOVE” trope…said dude-bros are also misogynists who complain about their girlfriends being unreasonable bitches and joke about sexually degrading/beating them…I think these guys are perhaps just PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX SCREEN.

  9. The Other Anne says

    Casey,

    To be fair, IMAX screens don’t project, they are projected upon, though saying PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX PROJECTOR just sounds kind of silly. ;)

    And, yeah, agreed. There is no reason there has to be some pseudo Freudian explanation for assholes to be assholes. Sometimes and asshole is just an asshole.

  10. says

    Does SunlessNick or anyone else who has knowledge of this RPGnet website know why Kynn, the creator of the game (and a self-identified transwoman, if it’s relevant) has been banned? There’s apparently a limit as to how much I can search for without registering and I find it suspicious that she’s been banned so recently after multiple threads around her game devolved into sexist shit-flinging.

  11. Ida says

    Oh my deity, it is amazing how much people will fight tooth and nail against anyone who tries to create channels of entry into a White heterosexual boys’ club. That same shitstorm happens whenever someone talks about opening doors to the programming and technology clubs.

  12. Mintywolf says

    Hm, I’m disappointed in my fellow RPG.net’ers. :(

    Gaming really depends on your group for experience, and in recent years has been decidedly more inclusive. The Mr and I were talking about this just the other day; he’s been going to Gen Con for something like 12 years, and has noticed an upswing in female attendees and vendors, which is a good thing. Attending the past two years I’ve never felt othered by the dealers, and haven’t had any experiences with being excluded from games or dismissed because I’m female. So generally in person I think at least the largest gaming con is better than the general population . . . at least in the companies themselves. The average gamer walking by, I couldn’t say. Maybe the anonymity of the internet gives a better idea of what’s actually going on in their thought process.

    My gaming group is excellent, though that’s not necessarily indicative of the hobby at large . . . still, we have a mix of races and sexualities, and while I’m in the minority as a female I’m taken seriously by my group, and my concerns are *always* addressed. I’m also a fan of the Pathfinder system who does make an effort to be inclusive and offer a variety of NPC characters and Iconic characters, and takes fan feedback on those things (I was on a thread recently about including characters of varying sexualities, in which one of the creators participated extensively, and was quite clear on his position of including characters who don’t fall in the ‘male hetero’ box.). Other systems are also fairly inclusive . . . and then you have absolute tripe like FATAL, which is *900* pages of pure misogynistic crap.

    Sorry to go on ^.^;; Gaming is one of my serious passions, I love playing in and running games, and I feel extremely lucky to have my group. I’ve heard horror stories from other women though, as well as from others who fall outside of the ‘white hetero male’ core group.

  13. SunlessNick says

    Sylvia Sybil,

    I don’t know if you can see a subforum called “Trouble Tickets” without registering but that’s where moderator decisions get discussed, including bannings. There’s a thread for Kynn, which says she was banned for this, which was deemed a personal attack. FWIW, the guy banned in the same post (whom I think was the one she was talking to) had his ban upped to a month following a review of his history in the whole storm of threads about this.

  14. Patrick McGraw says

    Mintywolf:
    Hm, I’m disappointed in my fellow RPG.net’ers.

    Gaming really depends on your group for experience, and in recent years has been decidedly more inclusive.The Mr and I were talking about this just the other day; he’s been going to Gen Con for something like 12 years, and has noticed an upswing in female attendees and vendors, which is a good thing.Attending the past two years I’ve never felt othered by the dealers, and haven’t had any experiences with being excluded from games or dismissed because I’m female. So generally in person I think at least the largest gaming con is better than the general population . . . at least in the companies themselves.The average gamer walking by, I couldn’t say.Maybe the anonymity of the internet gives a better idea of what’s actually going on in their thought process.

    My gaming group is excellent, though that’s not necessarily indicative of the hobby at large . . . still, we have a mix of races and sexualities, and while I’m in the minority as a female I’m taken seriously by my group, and my concerns are *always* addressed.I’m also a fan of the Pathfinder system who does make an effort to be inclusive and offer a variety of NPC characters and Iconic characters, and takes fan feedback on those things (I was on a thread recently about including characters of varying sexualities, in which one of the creators participated extensively, and was quite clear on his position of including characters who don’t fall in the ‘male hetero’ box.).Other systems are also fairly inclusive . . . and then you have absolute tripe like FATAL, which is *900* pages of pure misogynistic crap.

    Sorry to go on ^.^;; Gaming is one of my serious passions, I love playing in and running games, and I feel extremely lucky to have my group.I’ve heard horror stories from other women though, as well as from others who fall outside of the ‘white hetero male’ core group.

    Mintywolf:
    . . . and then you have absolute tripe like FATAL, which is *900* pages of pure misogynistic crap.

    I’m going to have to disagree with you here. The crap is also racist and homophobic. It’s pure crap, but a mixed variety of crap.

  15. says

    Lindsey,

    Livejournal is being a brat right now, so I can’t see any of the actual controversy. But based on the quick summary…damn. H&H looked really promising and I’m sorry to see that it was connected to an alleged rapist. Best wishes for the survivor.

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