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Hooray! No more OSC Superman project!

The sequester will hurt women. Confused about what the sequester IS? HuffPo has your back.

More on the Oscars.

Jo Walton’s Farthing is getting re-released. This is YOUR CHANCE to get in on some sweet (compelling, well-written) alt-history WWII action.

Reality check on transvag ultrasounds.

Really great post on Firefly:

Shouldn’t it be a priority, if you’re trying to tell a believable story about a Sino-American future, to include Asian characters?

But instead, I held my tongue.GEESE ARE TERRIFYING.

More on Piers Anthony and pedophilia.

GREAT example of racism in reporting.

Cellulite –> ain’t no thang.

Below are links from our readers. YAY READERS.

From Ara:

It’s horrifying that there was such a backlog in the first place but
it’s great that someone is paying attention.

From Cheryl:

Seanan McGuire, author of the Toby Daye and InCryptid series,
addresses a question from a reader about “when” the female characters
in one or the other of her series will “finally” be raped.

I watched the video about this campaign and it relies on the
sexualization of men, and I thought it might be of interest in Hathor
in terms of gender politics and perception.

From Casey (who likes to make MRA folks weep):

So Melissa McEwan is banning anyone on Shakesville deigning to bring
up the fact that Bill Clinton sexually harassed and assaulted women.

A new-ish study (from July) shows that women and children first

policies on sinking ships were pretty much a myth.

Petroglyphs in Alberta, Canada destroyed by vandals armed with acid
and a drill. Apparently this has been happening a lot lately.

A 21-year old Brony named Max Veers admits to having raped a 16 year
old girl and things only get worse from there.

 

Comments

  1. Palaverer says

    Um, wow. I’m a big fan of Shakesville, so I was very surprised by the seething hatred directed toward it on a site that’s not affiliated with MRAs. First of all, the comment that goes with that link above is dishonest. If you read the piece it is clear that Liss declared that topic to be off-topic on one thread, not the entire site. Second of all, she’s always tried to create separate spaces for separate discussions. Obviously the folks at Stupid Is as Stupid Does think that’s tyrannical and abusive. Is that the opinion of the folks at Hathor?

  2. Maria says

    Palaverer,

    Seething hatred? What are you talking about? A two-line comment on our site isn’t indicative of a seething hatred. Also, the hyperbole re: tyranny and abusive is not appropriate. The posters at that site are critiquing an editorial/mod decision, and are (rightfully so, imo) calling it out as fighting within a larger history of mod policies re: comments and policing stories about sexual assault. Going to another blog to talk about your issues and concerns isn’t being tyrannical or abusive; it’s being on the internet.

    Secondly, if it’s a reader submitted link, it’s the reader’s opinion. I’ve linked to Shakesville in the past and think that, in general, they do okay work. I think that in this particular instance, Melissa made editorial decisions I don’t agree with that are evidence of a less-than-awesome stance towards discussing sexual harassment and sexual violence re: public figures identified as liberal or progressive. I think that in that particular instance, the way she edited/screened/deleted comments fights into a larger tradition in the progressive movement of silencing victim/survivors of sexual assault and sexual harassment. But seething hatred? No, I reserve that for MRA blogs, creep shot forums, and bad bus drivers. A good bout of hate takes a lot of energy.

  3. sbg says

    I didn’t grow up with Duck, Duck, Goose. but that argument/explanation is totally compelling.

    Where I was, it was Gray Duck. You’d go around and name different colors (Red Duck, Purple Duck, Yellow Duck, Grrrreen Duck (for the fake out), Blue Duck) and Gray Duck was the cue. Huh.

  4. says

    1.) I love the crap out of Jo Walton’s stuff (that I’ve read), so I’m going to need to try and pick that up. Thanks for the heads up.

    2.) Loved the Firefly post…as much as I love the show, the casting is a huge and very visible problem. If (gods willing!) they bring it back, I would really like to see it addressed.

    3.) That news article about the shootings…seriously, WTF.

    4.) Re: sinking ships…I will admit that my very first response was “wait, what about Titanic?”. Turns out my actual knowledge of many things really is incredibly shallow. Thanks for the education.

  5. Palaverer says

    Maria,

    Maria I need to apologize for not making my comment very clear. I did not mean that you were showing hatred. I meant that about the commenters at that link. And I didn’t know whether you wrote the blurb around the link or whether it was entirely supplied by the person who submitted the link, but I am correct in pointing out that it is factually incorrect and sensationalized.

    I completely respect both your opinion and your right to express it on the internet. I was taken aback by the vitriol expressed in the comments. I am not being hyperbolic my characterization of comments like this

    “The outright manipulation and bullying has become ever more blatant to the point where it really is a cult now.”

    As claims of abuse and tyranny. And, yes, I realize that I’m picking up on comments, rather than the author’s original post. But I don’t think that’s irrelevant because these aren’t the usual gross comments in response to a feminist post. This is apparently a community that has a vitriolic hatred of Shakesville, not just a disagreement with its moderation practices. I have not previously encountered a feminist space that felt that way. No community is a monolith, but there’s not one positive comment there about Melissa or Shakesville. And since it was linked to on Hathor, I was curious if their hatred was generally shared by Hathorites.

  6. says

    ONCE AGAIN. BECAUSE WE LINK TO SOMETHING DOES NOT MEAN WE ENDORSE IT OR AGREE WITH IT. That’s not how links work. Links are to GENERATE DISCUSSION. This isn’t a Hathor rule. This is simply how citations have worked for all our lifetimes and then some.

    (Also, I’m having trouble getting past the idea that the “Hathorites” all agree on anything. Do you actually think we sit around having meetings where we decide the site’s platform on everything so it can run for Congress or something?)

    Sorry for the caps lock, but we have been over this before. Now, please do critique/debate how that community is handling this issue all you like – that’s what the link is for. But when you ask if it represents the views of this site, you actually derail the conversation completely onto Links 101.

  7. Cloudtigress says

    Palaverer:
    Maria,

    (snip)

    I completely respect both your opinion and your right to express it on the internet. I was taken aback by the vitriol expressed in the comments. I am not being hyperbolic my characterization of comments like this

    “The outright manipulation and bullying has become ever more blatant to the point where it really is a cult now.”

    As claims of abuse and tyranny. And, yes, I realize that I’m picking up on comments, rather than the author’s original post. But I don’t think that’s irrelevant because these aren’t the usual gross comments in response to a feminist post. This is apparently a community that has a vitriolic hatred of Shakesville, not just a disagreement with its moderation practices. I have not previously encountered a feminist space that felt that way. No community is a monolith, but there’s not one positive comment there about Melissa or Shakesville. And since it was linked to on Hathor, I was curious if their hatred was generally shared by Hathorites.

    Y’all realize that sf_drama is a WANK site, don’t you, and not a ‘kudos’ site? People post things there that they find upsetting for one reason or another. Besides Shakesville, I have seen regular rants on Bronies, cf_hardcore, abuse (of various sorts), misogyny, the ontd (Oh No They Didn’t!) group of sites, and Mormonism, among others. And folks there don’t usually hold back when they’re upset with something. Shakesville is treated no differently than (almost) any other site that gets wanked over by sf_drama regulars. If Shakesville does something stupid, why should sf_drama give them a pass about it?

  8. Cloudtigress says

    Maria:
    Cloudtigress,

    Oh my gosh. That’s… wow. It’s smug? Imperialistic? Orientalist? Fetishistic of foreskins? All at the same time…

    And  you just summed up the collective response of the posters in that thread in a few words.  :)  Except for the one poster (who posted about two months after everyone else did, which is why no-one responded to them yet) who kinda missed the point that the middle of a sex scene isn’t the best spot for an anti-circumcision rant….

  9. SunlessNick says

    That Seanan McGuire post, I think it’s the “finally” that gets me the most. That implies not just inevitability, as McGuire addressed it, but also something to look forward to.

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