Links of Great Interest 6/26/09

Bored at work? Check out these links of great interest! 😉

Cathrynne M. Valente is going to be releasing chapters of Circumnavigating Fairyland every Monday. Yum.

Kate Bornstein is all IMAGINE OTHERWISE, positing Wall-E as a butch/femme (b)romance.

Voz-Latina calls out cis women for not paying attention to trans issues.

This article on heterosexual privilege might be a good resource to those of you interested in being a good ally.

Zvi calls out fandom for its unimaginative descriptors of Uhura. You should also check out the racism hidden in the new Transformers movie. By “hidden,” I mean “completely not obvious to anyone at all ever.” 😛 Zvi has actually been a very busy beaver these last few days… zhe’s also got a post up on trigger warnings and fanfic. Darkrose responds to this post here.

The Lesbian Poetry Archive is expanding by leaps and bounds.

In news of of the F’ed Up, an indigenous woman was separated from her daughter by MS authorities. Who knew ENGLISH was a parental requirement? If you want to help the mother and child in question, check out this post from FlipFloppingJoy.If you would instead like to read more about Diners Club and their offer of Vietnamese brides, check out AngryAsianMan’s post here. Racewire is also talking about it.

TroubleInChina has a bunch of neato links on ablism in schools and Star Trek. Of particular interest is this discussion of Geordi’s blindness.

Marjorie M. Liu has a book-based scavenger hunt. One of the characters from Hunter’s Kiss has written a letter to the protagonist of that series; this letter is canon but will NOT appear in the books.

Gabi from Young,Fat,andFabulous interviewed America’s Next Top Model’s first “plus-size” winner.

Below are some links that are NOT safe for work! They’re just of great interest. 😉

SugarBank’s got some reflections on the recent AIDS outbreak in the porno industry. Here‘s some discussion of how this issue gets read as a gay issue specifically, even though AIDS itself doesn’t discriminate.


  1. says

    On the whole: great links, thankyou. BUT…

    I don’t know if you’re aware of the general discussion of triggers going on in fanfic fandom, but Zvi’s post and her behaviour in the comments has been roundly criticised as being ableist and hurtful by people with triggers, and on the whole I think it would be much more appropriate to link to one of the many posts on the topic by people who *do* have triggers. There’s a summary of the whole thing here:
    As someone who doesn’t have triggers I don’t feel I can say which of the many posts on the subject would be best to link but there’s a gazillion on metafandom (

    (This isn’t meant as an attack on Zvi in general, most of everything else she says is made of awesome)

  2. Charles RB says

    Should be noted on the Skids/Mudflap thing – the other voice actor was Reno Wilson, who is black, who made this statement at :

    “Wilson said Wednesday that he never imagined viewers might consider the twins to be racial caricatures. When he took the role, he was told that the alien robots learned about human culture through the Web and that the twins were “wannabe gangster types.” ”

    So from this we can assume either he or both of the voice actors were _directed_ to do it this way, which clashes somewhat with Bay’s “it was the actors’ idea, honest!”.

    So the writers say it was Bay’s idea, Bay says it was the actor’s idea, the actors say they were told to do it – for people who don’t see how it was a problem at ALL, they sure seem eager to blame other people for it…

  3. The OTHER Maria says

    Hi SQBR —

    Thanks for the links! I’ll include them in next week’s round up.

    I’m curious to hear more about the appropriateness of a particular post. What makes linking to her post inappropriate, if it helps continue the ongoing conversation?

  4. says

    The OTHER Maria: I must admit that I’m relatively new to this blog, so perhaps I’ve misread the context. The two assumptions I’m going on are that:
    a) You do not wish to promote ableist ideas and actions
    b) Unless stated otherwise, being in this list is an endorsement of a post (not necessarily meaning *agreement*, but you think it’s a valid and reasonable POV)

    If (a) doesn’t hold then it would be nice to know so I can drop you from my blogroll.

    If (b) doesn’t hold that’s fair enough in principle (metafandom posts lots of stuff they clearly disagree with)

    But this certainly doesn’t feel like a “random collection of links, some of which are offensive but interesting”.

    To me what you’ve done is roughly equivalent to a disability blog posting:
    “Bob calls out the ableism in Dr who *here*… He’s been a busy little beaver, he’s also got a post up on *how women can avoid sexual harassment by staying home at night*.”

    I hope it goes without saying that the ONLY people who can speak with authority on a given disability are the people with that disability. If it doesn’t, see my response to (a).

    Darkrose’s post is, imo, dealing with a different aspect of the warnings discussion and doesn’t really address Zvi’s post so much as mention it in passing.

    So you have a person who doesn’t get triggered using victim blaming as an excuse to justify not using warnings, and a person with triggers pointing out how SOME warnings can be problematic. But NOTHING from any of the many people with triggers about how incredibly important warnings are, and how the “Just avoid any fic without warnings” argument is not acceptable.

    So I don’t see how posting Zvi’s link like this is “continuing the ongoing discussion”, at least not in a way that’s going to create a discussion I want any part in.

  5. The OTHER Maria says

    Your concerns are totally valid — in re-reading the second post I see more why it’s ablist and problematic. Plus, in reading some of the other posts at MF, I see that that seems to be one of the defining parameters of that discussion. To me, it seems that ablism and a misunderstanding of mental health issues and trigger warning underlies a lot of the anti-trigger warning conversations… Is that the case? Please keep in mind I’m a newbie to this convo! 😛 Anyways, it wasn’t my intent to endorse that — it was more like, I was linked to this first post about Uhura, was flipping through the poster’s journal, and was struck by the topic of this other post and decided to link to it since it seemed interesting and was on something I really haven’t either thought about. I’ll be more careful in screening next time.

    Thank you for your feedback! I’m trying to set up a link round-up that reflect multiple parts of fandom and the blogosphere. I personally don’t read fanfic and didn’t realize that there was a longer history to this conversation. Next time I get a link to something outside what I “do,” if I link to it in one of these things, I’ll ask if anyone knows anything more about the context or the history of the discussion as a way of inviting further comments here at Hathor. I really want these to both foster conversations here and be a way of continuing those conversations in future link round-ups, since I try to fold in the links commentators refer to in future posts.

  6. says

    *nods* I assumed that was what happened. Sorry if I’m a bit on edge, it’s been a nasty business for a lot of my friends, and also every time I see this sort of thing I think “What would it be like if it was my disability being dissected?”.

    ablism and a misunderstanding of mental health issues and trigger warning underlies a lot of the anti-trigger warning conversations

    Yes, I’d agree with that. Though there are some valid concerns mixed in there, and not always expressed in an ableist way (and in some cases from people with triggers themselves).

    Your approach to this sort of thing seems overall reasonable to me, from this one sample you’re open to people pointing out that you may have gotten the wrong end of the stick which makes a big difference.

  7. amymccabe says

    I would like to add that the trigger issue has deep yet roughly unexplored issues with feminism and women. Because most of the time the trigger discussed is rape. Most rapes happen to women.

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