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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
		<link>http://thehathorlegacy.com/open-thread-what-big-eyes-you-have-my-dear/#comment-90258</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I can’t help wondering what this series would have been like if the cast had also been the producers; there seems to be an unusually large disconnection between what the two ensembles thought of the central characters (is it unusually large, or is it just unusually apparent?).&lt;/i&gt;

Very interesting question. I&#039;ve often wondered how much direction and restriction commentators are given by whoever&#039;s distributing the DVD. Perhaps none, but it wouldn&#039;t shock me, given how film actors sign contracts stating they can&#039;t badmouth the film and must in fact find something positive to say about it in press junkets. It&#039;s possible some casts/crews are under restrictions and others not?

Or maybe this is just a lot more incendiary than, say, the controversy of Jack/Sam ship in SG-1, which got debated a bit in commentaries but never really *argued*. I say it&#039;s more incendiary because if it weren&#039;t for the military regulations, there&#039;s nothing offensive about the idea of Sam being interested in Jack or vice versa - they&#039;re both good people. But if someone has romantic feelings for someone like RH&#039;s Guy, knowing he&#039;s the sort of man who abandons his own newborn baby in the woods to die as an ad hoc form of birth control, you have to wonder if her brain&#039;s okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I can’t help wondering what this series would have been like if the cast had also been the producers; there seems to be an unusually large disconnection between what the two ensembles thought of the central characters (is it unusually large, or is it just unusually apparent?).</i></p>
<p>Very interesting question. I&#8217;ve often wondered how much direction and restriction commentators are given by whoever&#8217;s distributing the DVD. Perhaps none, but it wouldn&#8217;t shock me, given how film actors sign contracts stating they can&#8217;t badmouth the film and must in fact find something positive to say about it in press junkets. It&#8217;s possible some casts/crews are under restrictions and others not?</p>
<p>Or maybe this is just a lot more incendiary than, say, the controversy of Jack/Sam ship in SG-1, which got debated a bit in commentaries but never really *argued*. I say it&#8217;s more incendiary because if it weren&#8217;t for the military regulations, there&#8217;s nothing offensive about the idea of Sam being interested in Jack or vice versa &#8211; they&#8217;re both good people. But if someone has romantic feelings for someone like RH&#8217;s Guy, knowing he&#8217;s the sort of man who abandons his own newborn baby in the woods to die as an ad hoc form of birth control, you have to wonder if her brain&#8217;s okay.</p>
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		<title>By: SunlessNick</title>
		<link>http://thehathorlegacy.com/open-thread-what-big-eyes-you-have-my-dear/#comment-90255</link>
		<dc:creator>SunlessNick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does he have a vested interest in Guy being uber-sexy or something?&lt;/blockquote&gt;The man needs his love triangle, I guess.  Maybe he&#039;s disquieted at too many people liking Marian for Marian.  Or given that Marian was forced into the &quot;femme fatale&quot; role a lot of the time, maybe he had an issue with a woman in that role showing both clarity and heroism.

I can&#039;t help wondering what this series would have been like if the cast had also been the producers; there seems to be an unusually large disconnection between what the two ensembles thought of the central characters (is it unusually large, or is it just unusually apparent?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does he have a vested interest in Guy being uber-sexy or something?</p></blockquote>
<p>The man needs his love triangle, I guess.  Maybe he&#8217;s disquieted at too many people liking Marian for Marian.  Or given that Marian was forced into the &#8220;femme fatale&#8221; role a lot of the time, maybe he had an issue with a woman in that role showing both clarity and heroism.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help wondering what this series would have been like if the cast had also been the producers; there seems to be an unusually large disconnection between what the two ensembles thought of the central characters (is it unusually large, or is it just unusually apparent?).</p>
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		<title>By: Charles RB</title>
		<link>http://thehathorlegacy.com/open-thread-what-big-eyes-you-have-my-dear/#comment-90243</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy doesn&#039;t turn up until Series 2. Though S1 does have this &lt;i&gt;brilliant&lt;/i&gt; bit with the return of King Richard as the White-ish Knight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy doesn&#8217;t turn up until Series 2. Though S1 does have this <i>brilliant</i> bit with the return of King Richard as the White-ish Knight.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
		<link>http://thehathorlegacy.com/open-thread-what-big-eyes-you-have-my-dear/#comment-90242</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s on Region 2 DVD, which my player can handle, but it&#039;s like $94 through Amazon, and I&#039;d like to rent it first, which I can&#039;t, because Netflix doesn&#039;t have region 2 dvds. I&#039;ll check out the YouTube stuff, though! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s on Region 2 DVD, which my player can handle, but it&#8217;s like $94 through Amazon, and I&#8217;d like to rent it first, which I can&#8217;t, because Netflix doesn&#8217;t have region 2 dvds. I&#8217;ll check out the YouTube stuff, though! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles RB</title>
		<link>http://thehathorlegacy.com/open-thread-what-big-eyes-you-have-my-dear/#comment-90241</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whole thing is on DVD - and, of course, our old friend YouTube. Mainly the deliberately-silly songs, it seems, but they do have the catchy end credits! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWhLp2Zpn1w</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whole thing is on DVD &#8211; and, of course, our old friend YouTube. Mainly the deliberately-silly songs, it seems, but they do have the catchy end credits! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWhLp2Zpn1w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWhLp2Zpn1w</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;All of which just makes me think of Guy of Gisborne from Maid Marian And Her Merry Men, the soppy mummy’s boy with an imaginary friend called Plop-Bob the Alien.&lt;/i&gt;

OMG, that needs to become available through Netflix immediately. ROFL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>All of which just makes me think of Guy of Gisborne from Maid Marian And Her Merry Men, the soppy mummy’s boy with an imaginary friend called Plop-Bob the Alien.</i></p>
<p>OMG, that needs to become available through Netflix immediately. ROFL!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does he have a vested interest in Guy being uber-sexy or something? Because he seems a tad obsessed with proving it.&lt;/i&gt;

I think so, actually. The actor had a huge following, and I think the BBC was just beginning to realize that. DVD commentaries being a form of marketing, after all.

&lt;i&gt;It sounds like maybe Minghella forgot that other people would be hearing it, or couldn’t conceive of anyone disagreeing with his perspective.&lt;/i&gt;

Very possibly he forgot. But dude, it&#039;s being recorded. You work in media. You don&#039;t have the luxury of &quot;oops&quot;. Think, &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; speak.

&lt;i&gt;As you mentioned, the SG-1 directors are pretty equal opportunity in their recognition of the cast’s physical attributes,&lt;/i&gt;

No, I said &quot;Peter DeLouise&quot;, not SG-1 directors in general. Aside from Delouise, who pointed out Shanks&#039; looks and Anderson&#039;s butt a lot (he does have a nice butt, seriously), it was &quot;awww, doe eyes!&quot; all the time.

Furthermore, I even started to add into the post how badly Martin Wood creeped me out with his paternal &quot;there there&quot; soothing routine when Amanda Tapping gently but assertively pointed out that it didn&#039;t seem necessary the way her breasts were carefully backlit and framed in one scene.

&lt;i&gt;I seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent, but I hope it’s reminded you that Minghella is the exception, not the rule.&lt;/i&gt;

I dunno. I haven&#039;t watched any of the others you mentioned, so you may be right. I hope so. But still, an &quot;exception&quot; like that in most industries could definitely earn you a nice long chat with Human Resources about what sexual harassment is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Does he have a vested interest in Guy being uber-sexy or something? Because he seems a tad obsessed with proving it.</i></p>
<p>I think so, actually. The actor had a huge following, and I think the BBC was just beginning to realize that. DVD commentaries being a form of marketing, after all.</p>
<p><i>It sounds like maybe Minghella forgot that other people would be hearing it, or couldn’t conceive of anyone disagreeing with his perspective.</i></p>
<p>Very possibly he forgot. But dude, it&#8217;s being recorded. You work in media. You don&#8217;t have the luxury of &#8220;oops&#8221;. Think, <i>then</i> speak.</p>
<p><i>As you mentioned, the SG-1 directors are pretty equal opportunity in their recognition of the cast’s physical attributes,</i></p>
<p>No, I said &#8220;Peter DeLouise&#8221;, not SG-1 directors in general. Aside from Delouise, who pointed out Shanks&#8217; looks and Anderson&#8217;s butt a lot (he does have a nice butt, seriously), it was &#8220;awww, doe eyes!&#8221; all the time.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I even started to add into the post how badly Martin Wood creeped me out with his paternal &#8220;there there&#8221; soothing routine when Amanda Tapping gently but assertively pointed out that it didn&#8217;t seem necessary the way her breasts were carefully backlit and framed in one scene.</p>
<p><i>I seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent, but I hope it’s reminded you that Minghella is the exception, not the rule.</i></p>
<p>I dunno. I haven&#8217;t watched any of the others you mentioned, so you may be right. I hope so. But still, an &#8220;exception&#8221; like that in most industries could definitely earn you a nice long chat with Human Resources about what sexual harassment is.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s... odd.  I listen to a lot of commentaries (like, A LOT), and I&#039;ve heard writers / directors / producers / whathaveyous say things I disagree with, but it&#039;s never felt creepy like that.  It sounds like maybe Minghella forgot that other people would be hearing it, or couldn&#039;t conceive of anyone disagreeing with his perspective.

It is fairly standard for filmmakers -- both male and female -- to comment on the attractiveness of their stars.  As you mentioned, the &lt;i&gt;SG-1&lt;/i&gt; directors are pretty equal opportunity in their recognition of the cast&#039;s physical attributes, as are Joss Whedon, Tim Minear, Matt Nix, Bryan Fuller...  Maybe I just watch shows with better execs?  And yes, it is still more &quot;acceptable&quot; to acknowledge an actress&#039;s beauty before her talent than it is for actors (stupid double standard).

I seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent, but I hope it&#039;s reminded you that Minghella is the exception, not the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s&#8230; odd.  I listen to a lot of commentaries (like, A LOT), and I&#8217;ve heard writers / directors / producers / whathaveyous say things I disagree with, but it&#8217;s never felt creepy like that.  It sounds like maybe Minghella forgot that other people would be hearing it, or couldn&#8217;t conceive of anyone disagreeing with his perspective.</p>
<p>It is fairly standard for filmmakers &#8212; both male and female &#8212; to comment on the attractiveness of their stars.  As you mentioned, the <i>SG-1</i> directors are pretty equal opportunity in their recognition of the cast&#8217;s physical attributes, as are Joss Whedon, Tim Minear, Matt Nix, Bryan Fuller&#8230;  Maybe I just watch shows with better execs?  And yes, it is still more &#8220;acceptable&#8221; to acknowledge an actress&#8217;s beauty before her talent than it is for actors (stupid double standard).</p>
<p>I seem to have gone off on a bit of a tangent, but I hope it&#8217;s reminded you that Minghella is the exception, not the rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ. Maid Marian was the only good thing in that series, and it seems like that happened ENTIRELY by accident.</description>
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		<title>By: softestbullet</title>
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		<dc:creator>softestbullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ewwwwwwww.</description>
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