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That Question: “Aren’t you glad your mother didn’t abort you?”

by SunlessNick on February 28, 2011

That’s the question that anti-abortion folk think will trump all possible argument from a pro-choice person and leave them sputtering vainly. And given the onslaught against Planned Parenthood and any other access to abortion that American women are facing now, I thought I’d have a go at answering it.

Of course, one perk of being clinically depressed is that I can honestly answer that sometimes I do wish she had aborted me, which tends to leave the questioner the sputtering one (you can ignore that, it’s a bit morbid). But the thing is, even without the morbid part, the foetus me would never have known the difference, so the perspectives aren’t equal. Being aborted wouldn’t have taken anything away from me, because at that time, I didn’t have anything – at the time, there wasn’t really a “me” to have anything in the first place.

But if I’m glad I wasn’t aborted, that means NOTHING. Here’s why. The question is also phrased, “Aren’t you glad your mother was pro-life,” in the erroneous assumption that a pro-choice woman would always choose abortion. Truthfully, I don’t know where my mother stood on abortion when she was pregnant with me – it’s never seemed like quite the right time to ask. But she – yes – gave me life. And that doesn’t just refer to pregnancy and birth, but to the immunerable other things since then. For all of which I love her. And because of that love, the idea that she might not have had, or thought she had, the right to choose otherwise – that those nine months and all the years since are something she should have been forced into because of an accident (I do know I was an accident) – makes my heart ache. And the idea of forcing other women into the same makes my skin crawl.

Am I glad my mother didn’t abort me? Today, I am. Am I glad she was “pro-life?” I don’t know if she was. But if she was, and thought she had no choice – or was surrounded by enough people who were, to take her choice away from her – then no, that would not make me glad. I love her, and would rather have been aborted than have been the cause of either of those things.

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Clarissa (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 9:22 am

What a great post! As the Republican assault on our reproductive rights intensifies, we will be faced with the need to deflect many of such ridiculous arguments coming from anti-abortionists. It’s especially appalling that they have the gall to call themselves pro-life in view of their recent attempts to legalize the murder of doctors in South Dakota, Nebraska and Iowa.

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Cate (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 9:33 am

When I was a kid, I found a button of my mom’s that said, “Pro-Child, Pro-Choice.” I didn’t understand it for the longest time, in the simplistic way of the very young I thought it was a contradiction.

Which is all to say I wish I could find a bumper sticker that says, Aren’t You Glad Your Mother Was Pro-Choice? :)

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Doctor Science (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 9:57 am

I was born in the 1950′s, less than 7 months after my parents’ wedding.

My mother loved me and my (unplanned) brother, but she didn’t love *having* us. Sometimes, she felt that having me had almost ruined her life, and it certainly ruined the life she *wanted* to have. I know this because, as a child, I heard her say it.

Because she and my father are extremely intelligent and more-than-normally self-aware, they were dogmatic in their insistence on birth control for the younger generation, and on how, of all the reasons for getting married, “being able to have sex” may be the worst. They strongly disapproved of early marriage, as well.

My children can (and have) said, “I’m glad that my mother had me on purpose, because she *wanted* to and had planned on it.” They never, ever have to think of themselves as mistakes.

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DSimon (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 11:14 am

I tend to ask back: “How many siblings do you have? X? Well, do you mourn for the X+1th sibling that you didn’t end up having because your parents didn’t conceive one more time?”

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Attackfish (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 11:18 am

This question always makes me feel horribly uncomfortable, because my mom flat out told me a few years back that she would have aborted me had she known I had my illness. Mom and I both belong to the “safe, legal, and rare” camp, and it was a little hard to hear that. At the time, I was coming to terms with the unexpected sense of loss I felt over getting my tubes tied (I can conceive, but I can’t carry. My body reacts very violently to progesterone, which along with making any pregnancy deadly also means I can’t be on hormonal birth control. I’m also allergic to latex and petroleum, and chemical spermicide, which takes out barrier methods). I had known for years that I couldn’t have children, but planning the operation felt like giving up. And as liberal and steeped in queer and disability theory as I am, I still felt as if my femininity were somehow defective, because I would never give birth to my own children. I’d already known I was a surprise, and that my father had gone out and had a vasectomy as soon as my parents found out, but I’d also known how happy they were and how much they love me. It feels strange to know my mother would have aborted me not because she couldn’t take care of me, or because she didn’t want another child, but because she didn’t want to raise a child with disabilities. This is where my respect of the sovereignty of women over their own bodies and advocacy of women’s reproductive freedom meets my deep anger at the way our society treats people with disabilities as a little less human, and a little less worth life, tangles and falls down. I don’t want to see anyone forced to a fetus to term, but I hate knowing some of them are aborted because they would have grown into people with disabilities and for no other reason.

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Attackfish (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 11:21 am

I usually answer back when they ask me about the possibility of having been aborted, “Wow, aren’t you glad your parents had sex that night? What if one of your parents had to be out of town that week? phew, lucky break.”

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cycles (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 11:42 am

And then there are the people who are alive today because their mothers DID have a previous abortion. Avoiding unwanted parenthood at a bad time in their lives allowed them to go on to have wanted children later.

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Pegs (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 12:38 pm

I’m not bothered by my hypothetical non-existence.

I exist right now because of pro-choice policies. My parents were married for some nine, 10 years before they CHOSE to have both my brother and me (And just us two.) Knowing how ridiculously fertile the females are in my family, I can assume either two things: 1) My parents only had sex nine years into their marriage and stopped once they got their two kids, or 2) They utilized family planning—including birth control and perhaps even abortion—until they knew they were ready to have children.

Yeah, we know which one is more likely.

If pro-choice options hadn’t been available, my mom would have been pregnant from the get go … oh, and that means no me.

Alternatively, my mom’s reproductive choices come after my grandma had 15 kids (With my mom & her twin sister being the youngest.) My grandma was an amazing, strong and brilliant woman. I love her a ridiculous amount, even though she’s been gone for many years.

And the funny thing about truly loving someone is that you trust, respect and want the best for them, in a completely unselfish manner. Which means I’m a-okay with whatever decision my Grandma would have made if birth control/abortion/etc. had been more readily available to a rural housewife during the early 1900s.

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sbg (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 12:55 pm

I find the question ridiculous. Then again, I find it ridiculous there are people who profess to be pro-life when it comes to fetuses but clearly have zero regard to the living, breathing women bearing said fetuses, or do not take into consideration what circumstances these all important fetuses will be born into.

I mean, if a child is born into a situation in which the family cannot make ends meet, etc, etc., you can bet your sweet bippy some of those who would fight for the child’s right to exist would fight against paying for any type of government assistance once the baby’s out into the world. Then it’s all up to the poor folks who knew going in they couldn’t handle it, but had no choice in the matter, to stop being so lazy and live the American dream already.

Whoops, got a bit sidetracked there.

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Nuri (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 1:34 pm

the erroneous assumption that a pro-choice woman would always choose abortion.

That is what irks me most about the anti-abortists. What part of “choice” is so hard to understand? They shouldn’t be called pro-life, they should be called anti-choice, because that’s what they actually are.

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M.C. (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 1:51 pm

I think that question is as disgusting as asking a child of rape: “Do you wish your mother had aborted you, because your father is a rapist, who’s DNA shouldn’t continue existing in this world?”

Or how about this: a few weeks ago there was a news story about a woman who had died in a local hospital while giving birth (yeah, stuff like that still happens). Maybe we should ask the baby girl in a few years time “Do you wish your mother had aborted you, because then she would still be alive?”
btw: I’m not seriously suggesting this. Of course it’s not the girl’s fault that her mother died, but the thought will probably cross her mind once she grows up. And at least such a child should know that her mother had a choice, that she knew the risks but wanted the baby so much anyway, that she wasn’t forced into this.

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Tristan J (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 3:51 pm

This was always the question that bothered me, despite my pro-choice stance. I was concieved on a one night stand, and my mum chose to have me. Though I guess that choice of words right there defeats the whole thing. Plus the fact that Mum had the support of my grandparents. And her five older brothers and sisters, all of whom I’m pretty sure had already had kids. And the government. And, after I was born, my dad (not my biological father).

Okay, it doesn’t bother me anymore.

Actually, on the government supporting my mum and me, that’s a good response for that question: Aren’t you glad you’ve been helping me financially for all my life? Thanks for that!

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Sophie Lagacé (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 5:00 pm

My mother loves children in general. She has three of her own and three grandchildren, but she continues to go gaga over *any* child. She has never been enthusiastic about abortion, and she would much prefer that no one ever had to make that kind of decision. In fact she really hates the idea of abortion. And yet she has always told us: “Better ten less children than one too many.” Coming from her it’s really striking to hear, because she is so very, well, pro-child.

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Revena (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 5:06 pm

I always feel a little weird leaving comments like this, but I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your perspective. When reproductive rights intersect with disability and ablism, stuff gets confusing and upsetting fast, and it’s good to keep that in mind, too.

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Jennifer Kesler (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 5:38 pm

I too wanted to respond to you, Attackfish, but can’t come up with anything better than: yeah, some of the REASONS why people might choose to abort really need to be examined. It almost has to be a whole other conversation (to provide the abilities issue the full focus is needs), and yet it can’t possibly be, because “every child should be a wanted child” is such an important and misunderstood reason for keeping abortion legal, but there’s a big difference between not wanting a child because YOU are not in the right place for it and not wanting it because you’re rejecting something about the fetus.

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Jennifer Kesler (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 5:42 pm

I love this comment! :D

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Attackfish (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 7:30 pm

I don’t even have any idea about how I feel about this, or any solutions. But we have all kinds of rights that are exercised for the wrong reasons, and I’d hate to see those rights stripped. I just wish there were a serious conversation about why we see some human lives as inherently worth more than others. *shakes head* yeah, yeah.

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Kathmandu (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 8:02 pm

No one has yet pulled that on me in person, but my model response is always “My mommy is pro-choice. She had me on purpose.”

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Tristan J (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 8:27 pm

The moment of dawning comprehension is a beautiful thing XD

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Bonnie (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 9:40 pm

I have always hated that question, because not only is it a strawperson and a huge derailing, it doesn’t even make any sense. If my mother had aborted me, I wouldn’t have existed, I wouldn’t be talking to you, and there wouldn’t have been any “me” to be glad or non-glad about. It’s completely irrelevant.

So I suppose it’s logical that “pro-lifers” constantly ask it.

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Azzy (like) (flag)
February 28, 2011 at 10:03 pm

My mother would have gotten an abortion, had they been legal in our country at the time. I was conceived out of wedlock and my mother had bigger plans than being married to my father. She was always very distant throughout my childhood, leaving me (and later my brother) to be raised by our abusive paternal grandparents (though, granted, recent conversations seem to indicate she had no idea that there was abuse, or how deeply we were affected by it). So no, I’m not glad my mother didn’t abort me. She didn’t have a choice and, as a result, both our lives were made miserable. It’s not that I want to be dead, or anything, but if I hadn’t been born, I wouldn’t have known the difference, and my mother’s life might have been happier. Maybe that’s a strange way to look at it, but there you go.

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Raeka (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 1:01 am

I, too, was glad to see this comment here. I haven’t figured out exactly how I feel about it, either, and it definitely makes me uncomfortable, but I do think it’s something people should keep in mind when discussing reproductive rights.

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Raeka (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 1:10 am

I’m a triplet –if some people think ONE baby is hard, imagine being sprung with three. One option the doctor floated was selective abortion. My mom, who had wanted us kids very much, couldn’t stomach the idea, but… I would support her if she had chosen to just have one child.

As most people have said, I wouldn’t have known the difference, and having grown up with an awesomely loving, HAPPY mother, I really would not trade that for anything. More than that, though…. I dunno if I believe in a God or not, but if I did, I don’t think that would have been it, poof, no chance at life for me (and even if it was, I believe an innocent baby would go straight to Heaven, so wouldn’t the mother really be sparing the child the pain and suffering that comes with life?) —I think God would have just shrugged His shoulders or perhaps nodded wisely and found another mother to carry my soul. People talk about children as God’s gifts –but what they seem to forget is that you don’t HAVE to always accept a gift. Particularly one that comes with such responsibility.

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SunlessNick (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 4:46 am

Like Revena and Raeka, thankyou for bringing this in this perspective.

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SunlessNick (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 4:52 am

I sometimes think that question comes in part from envy at people who do know that their mother (or parents) wanted them.

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M.C. (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 6:13 am

I know a woman who had an abortion when it was still illegal in our country and today she’s glad she didn’t die during the procedure. I think many anti-choice people don’t understand that there will always be abortions, but having them be legal gives the women a chance to have it done by a proper doctor. This not only saves their lifes but also preserves their health so that they can later choose to have children.

Or maybe I’m being naive and anti-choice people just want women to die…

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Maartje (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 8:53 am

I’m the third of four, after three children my father had a vasectomy, it didn’t take. Only six months after I was born my mother was pregnant again. Both my parents are pro-choice and they chose to have this baby as well, even though their family was complete. Having four kids under six years old is more than a full-time job, and it’s what they chose.
But can you imagine what my little brother would feel like if they hadn’t had that choice?
What I would answer someone who asked me if I was glad my mother didn’t abort me? I guess I would answer that they know nothing about my or my parents situation at the time of my conception. Every situation is different and they don’t get to judge something they know nothing about.

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Jennifer Kesler (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 10:07 am

Nothing strange about it. I have watched firsthand the damage done by women who felt pressured to give up ambitions, get married and start making babies. While these particular women most likely would never have considered abortion, and the blame for how they took out their bitterness on their kids (emotional abuse) lies solely on them, the object lesson still stands: every child should be a wanted child. A lot of abusive personalities at least have the decency to try to avoid having unwanted kids – for the sake of all potential humans, don’t force these people into parenting! It’s not just that this makes for unhappy children: it makes for adults with a LOT of extra emotional difficulty to deal with.

It also breeds a minority of criminal and abusive personalities. The irony with most anti-choicers is that they are in favor of state executions. So in some cases, they’re almost surely cheering to give that lethal injection to some adult they didn’t want to see aborted as a fetus. Yet, they don’t get the inconsistency.

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Isabel C. (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 1:07 pm

Yep.

I’m not above shooting back with “MY mother WANTED me.” Because, you know, if you go there, you kind of have it coming.

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Casey (like) (flag)
March 1, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Hmm…this reminds me of a conversation my dad had with a family friend maybe a year or so ago as they were watching some NatGeo documentary about pregnancy/gestation, I think.
The friend was hemming and hawing trying to convince my dad of the “life begins at conception” stance with, “WELL LIKE, Y’KNOW MAAAAAN LIKE, FETUSES HAVE LIKE, SOULS N’ STUFF, Y’KNOW SO LIKE, ABORTION IS TOTES BAD, AMIRITE??”[/derpy surfer dude accent]
My parents are pro-choice, and my dad went on to explain that the fetus/embryo is, essentially, a parasite and if you don’t want it, get rid of it.
And me, the “Makes-Everything-About-Her” douche that I am, couldn’t help but feel offended/insulted! PERSONALLY! I thought “well gee, does that mean you think/thought I’M a parasite?” (this, compounded with the fact that I’ve been unemployed/unable to find work for two years and live with my parents so I really DO feel like a leech/parasite just made things worse)
Then again, both my sister and I were planned, so I guess my problems should be disregarded.

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