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	<title>Comments on: What I&#8217;m NOT Reading: Goth Girl Rising</title>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://thehathorlegacy.com/what-im-not-reading-goth-girl-rising/#comment-110939</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-109838&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jennygadget&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Can I ask what squicked you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-109838" rel="nofollow">jennygadget</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Can I ask what squicked you?</p>
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		<title>By: jennygadget</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennygadget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-109777&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jennifer&#032;Kesler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

This seems to be a thing with Lyga.  The short story he wrote for &lt;i&gt;Geektastic&lt;/i&gt; managed to squick me out right at the end.  Enough so that I nixed everything by him from my &quot;to-read&quot; shelf on goodreads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-109777" rel="nofollow">Jennifer&#032;Kesler</a></strong>, </p>
<p>This seems to be a thing with Lyga.  The short story he wrote for <i>Geektastic</i> managed to squick me out right at the end.  Enough so that I nixed everything by him from my &#8220;to-read&#8221; shelf on goodreads.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-109782&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maria&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

LOL@ your Kindle. I would probably restrain myself in that case if I had one. But a gentle shaking of the Kindle might be in order. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-109782" rel="nofollow">Maria</a></strong>, </p>
<p>LOL@ your Kindle. I would probably restrain myself in that case if I had one. But a gentle shaking of the Kindle might be in order. <img src='http://thehathorlegacy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-109777&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jennifer&#032;Kesler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Pretty much this. At first I was like, okay, MAYBE this is an extended discussion of grieving and how much mourning a lost parent and struggling with clinical depression can mess with an adolescent&#039;s thoughts...? Oh. Never mind.

My Kindle is too expensive to throw across the room!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-109777" rel="nofollow">Jennifer&#32;Kesler</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Pretty much this. At first I was like, okay, MAYBE this is an extended discussion of grieving and how much mourning a lost parent and struggling with clinical depression can mess with an adolescent&#8217;s thoughts&#8230;? Oh. Never mind.</p>
<p>My Kindle is too expensive to throw across the room!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-109776&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sylvia&#032;Sybil&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Side note: something I hate SO MUCH is when a book IS pretty good, and you&#039;re about 85% of the way in, and suddenly BAM with the really ugly social message from left field that, supposedly, the text was leading up to. I&#039;ve been known to throw a book across the room as if it had cooties when that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-109776" rel="nofollow">Sylvia&#32;Sybil</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Side note: something I hate SO MUCH is when a book IS pretty good, and you&#8217;re about 85% of the way in, and suddenly BAM with the really ugly social message from left field that, supposedly, the text was leading up to. I&#8217;ve been known to throw a book across the room as if it had cooties when that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Sybil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia Sybil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a &lt;i&gt;terrible&lt;/i&gt; book.

I mean, I&#039;m sure it has its virtues if you made it 85% in. But this shit about same sex attraction is nothing I want to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a <i>terrible</i> book.</p>
<p>I mean, I&#8217;m sure it has its virtues if you made it 85% in. But this shit about same sex attraction is nothing I want to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-109769&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jennifer&#032;Kesler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Also, the things Kyra and Jecca were looking for were comfort, safety, and affection. So... if those aren&#039;t good reasons to have sex, what is? I guess the thing that also trips me out about this passage is that suddenly sex/desire/orientation goes from being about what bodies you&#039;re into to being about life plans/couple-dom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-109769" rel="nofollow">Jennifer&#32;Kesler</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Also, the things Kyra and Jecca were looking for were comfort, safety, and affection. So&#8230; if those aren&#8217;t good reasons to have sex, what is? I guess the thing that also trips me out about this passage is that suddenly sex/desire/orientation goes from being about what bodies you&#8217;re into to being about life plans/couple-dom.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-109767&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maria&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

It also feels like it&#039;s putting the orientation label ahead of the experience, if that makes any sense. Like, she&#039;s trying to date within the orientation she intellectually thinks she has. I think you should just accept your attractions as they come, whether they fit a label or your perceived orientation or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-109767" rel="nofollow">Maria</a></strong>, </p>
<p>It also feels like it&#8217;s putting the orientation label ahead of the experience, if that makes any sense. Like, she&#8217;s trying to date within the orientation she intellectually thinks she has. I think you should just accept your attractions as they come, whether they fit a label or your perceived orientation or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-109766&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Casey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

The thing is, Kyra is SUPPOSED to be a jerk -- she&#039;s just been forcibly institutionalized by her parent after he finds out that she&#039;s still suicidal and struggling over the death of her mother a few years earlier. She&#039;s not in the best place right now, at all, which leads her to strike out at the people who care about her (like Fanboy, her friends she&#039;s constantly judging, a teacher who wants to sympathize with her, and her father). That&#039;s totally cool. What I&#039;m objecting to is that the WAY she&#039;s attacking her female friends in particular (mentally calling them sluts, constantly critiquing their outfits and sexualizing their bodies, etc) AND her most significant sexual relationship being with a girl means that it can&#039;t be A Lightning Bolt realization that she&#039;s straight. There&#039;s groundwork that could have been laid in-text to make that work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-109766" rel="nofollow">Casey</a></strong>, </p>
<p>The thing is, Kyra is SUPPOSED to be a jerk &#8212; she&#8217;s just been forcibly institutionalized by her parent after he finds out that she&#8217;s still suicidal and struggling over the death of her mother a few years earlier. She&#8217;s not in the best place right now, at all, which leads her to strike out at the people who care about her (like Fanboy, her friends she&#8217;s constantly judging, a teacher who wants to sympathize with her, and her father). That&#8217;s totally cool. What I&#8217;m objecting to is that the WAY she&#8217;s attacking her female friends in particular (mentally calling them sluts, constantly critiquing their outfits and sexualizing their bodies, etc) AND her most significant sexual relationship being with a girl means that it can&#8217;t be A Lightning Bolt realization that she&#8217;s straight. There&#8217;s groundwork that could have been laid in-text to make that work.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, this Kyra character sounds as big a jerk as Hannah in your prior installment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, this Kyra character sounds as big a jerk as Hannah in your prior installment!</p>
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